ok, i am happy to say that my mercury symptoms seem to be very weak if that, especially mental symptoms. It feels so good as I have been suffering with them for so long (since I was about 5 when I had the fillings put in, I'm 21 now). My copper symptoms are very weak as well even though I'm taking a multivitamin supplement with copper in it, which mite i say has greatly attributed to me feeling so much better. However I still do suffer from other irritating symptoms of which I am now certain are related to an out of control systemic candida overgrowth. Symptoms include constipation, feeling nauseous (u know that toxic feeling in ur gut that spreads throughout your body, u just know its candida!), bad headaches and the very irritaing symptom of red irritated skin that has left me a social outcast at certain times.

Now, before I knew that I was mercury toxic, I was treating myself for candida, going to naturopaths who gave me different herbs and other nutrients, including grapefruit seed extract, coconut oil, oregano oil and others which I thought would help me. I also went on the ridiculus diets of which were recommended, which really did me no good, only made me skinnier and unhealthy (I'm skinny as it is). So i tried this product threelac and oxygen elements. Now I know some of you will prolly burn me for saying this but it really did work, and the only reason why I stopped it was because I found out I was mercury poisoned and wanted to concentrate on that first.

My question is has anyone had experience with threelac and oxygen elements? I know they are expensive but I think very highly of them in controling candida, and I really do not think they are a bunch of crap like some others think. I think the reason why they don;t work for people is because they have other underlying health issues like mercury toxicity for instance! lol I'd also like to hear other people's experiences with candida and what they do to control it.

Yes i took both of these for months last year. They are powerful. I stopped because it got so expensive, i started to gon things like oregano, and olive leaf. I got skinny but thats due to the diet, no junk and allergenic foods. When i got my first 3 amalgams out i lost another stone and now look anorexic. I cant put on any weight now as with this mercury thing you still have to do the diet and its foods like bread that make you put on weight and we cant have it.

Yes I took threelac a few years ago and it did seem to make a difference although as you said it is very expensive. I took it when I still had my amalgams in but would probably work better when mercury free. I've since found that sticking to the blood type diet is the best thing for my candida ( I'm an O and don't really have a sweet tooth) and it seems to be under control now.
Mind you, for the last two weeks I've been eating a lot of chocolate, sweets, alcohol, dairy and gluten ( I'm a teacher and we've had a lot of leaving parties as it's the end of term) and I've now gone down with tonsillitis and feel really run down and tired.
But just discovered juicing again so have been juicing every vegetable I can get my hands on! Seems to help a bit.
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Well, I know when I was still eating sugars etc, I was losing more weight because it was feeding my gut organisms, NOT me, plus I lost my appetite completely due to getting worse candida. Some people get the opposite, they gain weight, feed candida, and instead of losing their appetite, they crave and can't stop eating. It can go both ways.

Some put on weight, others lose it. But I can see how people can get very thin on the candida diet! But the way to avoid this is usually making sure you eat fats in teh diet which balance things out again. Like full fat plain acidophilus yoghurt, butter, eating the fat on meat with the meat, raw nuts and seeds, eggs and maybe "some" cheese.

This allows the body to have more nutrition, create more bile and to keep some layers on it. Weight usually balances out as it should be. If I did not eat these fats, I'd be thinner than I am now I think.

If I even eat some fruit or some milk, that will be enough to feed my gut infection. I can't eradicate the gut infection, it will not go, but can only "try" to control it. NOt sure what caused this because I never used to have these gut problems, but now I do all the time.

I cannot afford the threelac etc, I'm financially challenged ...

But antifungals for me were a nightmare when I first used them. They killed so much candida on contact, that mercury was released back into my system and repoisoned me. Very dangerous and not recommended. Threelac is different obviously, but antifungals, even natural ones can be highly risky. But sometimes necessary in acute cases.

I know this much. before I used an antifungal, I was able to improve on diet alone. Once I used antifungals, diet alone now does not give me the improvements, so I gather the yeast inside me got stronger after being attacked wtih antifungals and has a higher resistance than before. That's another reason to not use them, unless you HAVE to.

Yes i wished i just did the diet, i wouldnt be in so much trouble now if i had. I took antifungals every 2 hrs, strong ones like oregano and olive leaf, also grapefruit seed extract. Along with this, Threelac which is a probiotic.

Hi joey, joe ..... I tried the Threelac and oxygen product as well. I did not notice any difference (good or bad) when I was taking it. I tried it for around 3 months. I then switched to what I thought might be better quality probiotics and I noticed a difference immediately.

SomedaySoon (Sharon)

im on a candida diet iv been taking 4 cloves of garlic a day and orriganno complex iv only been on it a week and i feel worse than i did before my whole body just feel like its burning and my panic attacks are worse than before im thinking its the garlic and origanno making me feel so bad but my neuropath said would be good for my thrush and athletes foot

Clare, have you had your amalgam removed yet, if not those things can make you worse.

To Clare

You should stop the garlic and oregano immediately. 4 cloves is a huge amount!!!!! Take a weeks rest using just the candida diet and eat plenty of unprocessed meat which will help you detox (the amino acids in meat will bind with the hg) any released mercury...... and then start with much lower doses......

thanks for the advice i still have all my amalgams in neuropath said my immune systems not strong enuff to have them out yet thats why im on the candida diet

hi Clare, even if you didn't have any amalgams, combining two antifungals like oil of oregano and garlic might be too much, especially for someone in the beginning phases of an antifungal protocol. Sometimes it's better to start one only one antifungal, use it for awhile and then stop and begin another type. Rotating antifungals sometimes can be helpful.

I just wanted to share with you that many candida sufferers have had bad results from doing really aggressive antifungal regimes while they still had amalgams in their mouths. That was certainly that case for me. I became incredibly ill.

My holistic/biological dentist believes that candida overgrowth is a sign of metal toxicity -- specifically mercury toxicity. The body produces excessive amounts of yeast which will wrap themselves around the mercury and buffer it from the body. When the yeasts are killed, people will experience die-off reactions to the mycotoxins from the dead yeasts PLUS experience the effects of mercury being re-released into the body.

Not everyone agrees with this theory, but I stand without question in believing that theory to be true in my case. In fact, my dentist told me not to take ANY antifungals unless I was taking Algin with it to help absorb the mercury that was being released.

Keeping an antifungal diet is a great place to start. Be on the lookout for reactions to sulphurous foods, like garlic, onions, broccoli, etc. Some mercury toxic people have problems with sulphur and have to made dietary modifications. Thankfully, I don't have that problem. Andy Cutler speaks about this though in his book, "Amalgam Illness."

Anyway, I happen to personally believe that yeast overgrowth is merely a symptom of something else that is going wrong in the body. For me, my horrendous yeast overgrowth problems were a result of my amalgams, I believe.



SomedaySoon (Sharon)

This is a truly controversial issue and while it is important to clean up your digestion by elimination of the gut yeast, you have to go slow and not kill off too much, too fast. The mercury hides in yeast cells and if you kill it too fast too much mercury can be released for a sick body to eliminate it efficiently. So go slow with the antifungals, and work on a colon and liver cleansing and supporting the adrenals, so that when you do get the amalgams out, your body is healthy enough to withstand the new onslaught of mercury.

I found the psyllium/bentonite shake with caprol to be very effective...along with a good probiotic, and no gluten or dairy...they plug up the intestines. And if you are constipated you can't eliminate the metals from the colon and they just get recycled.

Best luck,
Sandi

This is what I found on a mercury website... Do not even dream of putting a drill inside the mouth until the immune and liver detoxification systems are optimized. Patients have mineral imbalances due to diet and poor absorption. Just to give an example, we give magnesium in four different forms. We want magnesium to go to the outside and the inside of the cell wall, we want it inside the mitochondria which are the energy producers of the cell. The same applies to other minerals.

from....
http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Dentist/hall43.htm

ELIMINATING MERCURY
In order to remove mercury the body must have several systems in good working order.
1. BOWELS AND KIDNEYS are the main avenues of excretion for mercury. So the bowels and kidneys must be able to eliminate regularly and correctly.
2. LIVER FUNCTION: The liver is the main filtering system in the body. As mercury leaves the tissues and circulates through the blood and lymph system it will find its way to the liver to be sent out of the body.
3. ADRENAL AND THYROID FUNCTION: These glands are responsible for pumping mercury out of our tissues and sending it to the liver. Once in the liver they signal the liver to dump it out of the body.
NUTRIENTS THAT REMOVE MERCURY!
The trace element "SELENIUM" prevents mercury absorption from the intestinal tract. Other trace elements like zinc, iron, manganese, molybdenum, and vanadium help to stop mercury from absorbing into our cells and bump it out after it has settled in.
Sulfur compounds such as garlic, raw onions, slow cooked beans and eggs all aid the liver in the elimination and mobilization of mercury.
Intravenous chelation may be required if mercury levels are particularly high . This is a procedure where an I.V. is inserted into the patient. A chemical is then released into the blood that will bind with the mercury and carry it out.
I have found that this procedure removes good minerals as well as the bad ones. It can cause side effects by causing deficiencies of the good minerals. Most practitioners include supplements of the good minerals in the I.V. as an attempt to replace those minerals which may be lost. My experience has been that this is still inadequate. Therefore, I do not recommend the I.V. procedure unless it is an extreme and dangerous situation."
Here are a couple of sites for more info...

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/kiddredd/vpost?id=1226519&highlight=prerequisites
http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Dentist/hall43.htm

Hi Joey,

I have tried Threelac & another product similar to Oxygen elements. Personally I don’t think they did anything either good or bad. I have tried them both prior to and after amalgams being taken out. I do agree that candida is a secondary symptom to an underlying problem with the body though. My attempts at using antifungals were disastrous.

I find that a strict diet is the best thing for me and I use coconut oil for everything. Yumnnn.

Good on you that they work for you !

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