Hey thanks everyone for your support and kind words.

The bottom line here is that we're right. The evidence shows it and just because the special interests (the pharmaceutical complex) doesn't like it doesn't mean we back off. The truth is [color:"red"]powerful[/color] and one day, we'll see some serious convictions because of it.

[color:"red"]The Truth is what criminals are afraid of because they don't like confined spaces.[/color]


Here's another reply I just made on that forum...


You said...

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"Come on now, how can you say that "T" has "hastily" chosen her position, just because she disagrees with you?"
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Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, you must have missed where I said:

"...from my perspective, having put in my time researching these things, the position you have hastily chosen is as silly as saying "widespread corruption has never existed in governments throughout history"."

This has nothing to do with whether or not someone disagrees with me (you missed the entire point), but rather whether or not what they are saying is true. You see, it's easy to spot people who have not researched these subjects because they say silly things. If you had done the work I have, you'd understand exactly what I'm saying.

It's also important to know that if I didn't know anything about this subject, I would simply say so. There is no pride or ego here. Those things are a waste of time.

Having people disagree with me is a good thing because that is—in part—what challenged me to work to learn what I have learned. Remember, I was originally on "your" side of the fence, until I was challenged. I simply decided to do what many people don't and do the research for myself.

When I did, I saw before my very eyes the lies and misinformation that are routinely spread by the same group of people. If you did your homework, you would find the same thing. Of couse, you will only do this work if you are passionate about this subject. If you are not, then, as I alluded, this post is not for you.

If you are, you're about to learn some valuable things, but again, I won't spoon feed you because, if you're passionate, I don't need to. If you're not passionate, it won't make any difference what references I post or how much information I give you. You will uniformly reject them based on your emotional "comfort zone", so why would I waste my time?

I'm actually getting very real results doing things that the "establishment" says is impossible. Of course, those who are not naive understand "establishment" interests; Whereby they gain massive amounts of money by spreading flawed information.

As for me, I'm actually making a fraction of the money that I very-easily could in the computer programming or embedded systems industries, however, I make this sacrifice because I care about people and am getting results in helping them change their lives; I am passionate and I care about people.


You said...

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Your quotes all read very Uninformatively. They provide no data and no sources for further investigation, but vaguely cite that there are - somewhere out there - volumes of data to support their claims. That's nice, but worthless. At best,
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Did you miss the bottom two-thirds of the message? There is a wealth of information but, of course, you need to do a little work of your own to get to it.

Furthermore, I clearly explained why I don't provide spoon-fed information. (but let me say it again a different way)...

** Because it would not matter. **
(in fact a large portion of my post is dedicated to explaining this)

If you understand human nature, you know that people (especially people who don't care about a particular subject) will choose whatever position is most emotionally accommodating for them, and this is therefore known as the position of an "emotionally-based" person, not an intellect. This is a position that is self-centered (or self-serving) in this respect and not usually concerned with doing too much work in this context (i.e. not feisty).

An intellect will humble himself/herself (i.e. take their preconceived ideas out of the way) and conduct research. That is a core factor of real intelligence; Humility.

As a real life example, I had horrible health problems, a long list of them. As I was sharing them with a friend, she told me about how she had done what countless doctors could not: Cured her fibromyalgia by having her amalgam fillings removed.

After five years of torture and pain, she did a little research of her own (she is an intelligent woman, and feisty) and within a few days, concluded what none of the doctors did for the years she kept going to them. She soon had some dental work done and went from bedridden to owning her own website design company. Good for her!

The story for me is the same. In 24 hours after having my amalgams removed, I was rid of 17 physical symptoms and over the next couple years, had vast and life-changing emotional improvements and regained my short-term memory. Now, in helping others realize the scope of this mercury issue, I've seen many come back to health having nearly the same story as my friend.

The issue here is the scope of the problem.

Mercury from amalgams is not just some isolated health issue as the special interests would have you believe. It's a huge health issue. Based on the research I've done, I believe we (as a country) are about to discover how huge it really is. Of course, I supplied you with information showing that some of those among us—particularly those who profit from illnesses caused by mercury—have known this for years and have actively covered it up. Did you read it?

Again, to those who understand politics and human nature, this should not be any huge surprise.


Then you said...

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"That's nice, but worthless"
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Absolutely. You're right; Worthless to you, But not worthless to people who are willing to invest a little time into finding the truth behind the 180 degrees of separation; No, not worthless at all but very valuable, as it was to me and my friend, and not worthless to countless others I know have or are now recovering. You see, it's all a matter of values.


You Said...

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"but just grasping at contradictory information because it Doesn't support the mainstream and tenuously connects itself to a few random, well accepted facts is no smarter and - in fact - is pretty damned dangerous."
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What is truly dangerous is when a few special interests control or misrepresent medical information.

You must not have read my post entirely.

"Because it doesn't support the mainstream" is absolutely not the reason I take the position I do. That would be purely emotionally-based. I take it because the preponderance of evidence shows it is the correct postion.

Everyone I know who has done this research for themselves—and I know quite a few (you'd be surprised)—take the same position as me. It is only those who have not looked carefully at both sides of the issue who continue to beleve the lessor body of evidence promoted by the special interests.

Of course, some people who have not researched this latch on to the establishment data because they simply cannot believe that people in the industry could be so ruthless that they would intentionally coverup information that would cause suffering or even death. These people are very naive and know little about history.

I certainly understand that it's hard to believe initially that these kinds of people exist, but that does not make it untrue. It was initiallly hard for me to believe as well, but remember, you have to get your own feelings out of the way to do real research; Let the data lead you, not your emotions, then you will discover what so many others already have.


You Said...

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But hey, I read that there's this special water out there that can cure my chronic pain, and there's tons of stuff out there that says that water's really good for my health, and I'm made up of water mostly, right?, so I'm gonna go and jump off my meds and do that, cause - man - look, I have a press release that says I should, and JAMA and NEJM and the AMA totally don't support it, so yeah! Screw THE MAN!! I'm gonna Drink my nerve pain away!!! Where's my checkbook, 'cause - yeah - I'm gonna give these people every dime I own!!
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/7/prweb411216.htm
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This has nothing to do with me and is a poor satire of my mindset.


On a final note...

Sometimes the establishment data is right. Sometimes it is wrong. It does not matter who is right or wrong. What really matters is * what * is right or wrong... i.e. What the cause of a disease is so we can deal with the root problem and get people healthy instead of simply covering up symptoms.


Do your research.