Hi alex, yep, when you're in that much pain, it reaches a point where you'd take a pair of pliars to yourself almost and yank the tooth out (ok maybe that's going too far, but I do see what you're saying). I'm just glad that the pain is gone. I can't see any reason why it would ever return, the problem is gone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />