I never cease to be amazed at the strong opinions that I encounter when I bring up mercury, whether it be from amalgams or vaccines, from people who know nothing more about it than the propaganda they've heard on TV. I have learned to be tactical about it in order to get through people's programming and preconceived ideas. I make statements like these, each in their proper context:

Talking to a salesperson in a store that has just asked if they can help me...

"Um, no thanks. I'm just looking. Oh, geez, oh yea. Have you heard about this thing everyone's talking about that there's mercury in silver fillings and vaccines and it's making people sick?"

I usually get a great response to this because I'm not expressiong my opinion. I'm actually asking someone else about their experience but have managed to stuff a statement in there without offending anyone.

Talking to a server in a restaurant when they say someone they know or their child has become ill or has behavorial problems...

"Wow. Have you heard that all these doctors are saying that mercury in dental fillings and vaccines is causing autism and all of these behavorial disorders like ADD and ADHD, and how they're saying that mainstream medicine is covering it up to avoid taking responsibility?"

This works great because, again, you're not stating your own opinion, and because the listener will see it as an opportunity to voice they own opinion. Plus, everyone understands how people try to avoid responsibilty for things they've done, besides, coverups are almost a fad today, so you could even say you're being stylish.

I have learned, when speaking to friends and family about these things, to not speak my opinion but rather to simply voice the opinions of others that they may respect, like Dr. Culter for example. You put them in a bit of a trap because if they argue with the opinion of a doctor in public, they will be viewed as arrogant, perhaps.

Finally, in speaking to dentists...

"The day after I had my mercury fillings replaced I felt better than I ever had in my entire life. Also, I had 17 ailments that I had all my life that suddenly went away. Plus, my shyness and fear of public speaking were gone the following year for the first time ever."

In this case, you have not said anything the dentist can argue about. You're simply relating your personal experiences. If they respond by saying, "maybe your problems were caused by something else", you could respond by saying:

"Hmmm. That would be quite a coincidence that all 17 things went away at the same time."

If they respond by saying that the ADA says that science has shown that mercury is safe, you can reply:

"The ADA also said that they have no responsibility for the damage caused by harmful substances used in dentistry because they don't install it."

This should get the attention of the dentist because they have just been put in the firing line, not by you, but by the ADA; the organization that claims to be a dentist's advocate.

Here's the quote from the ADA:

"The American Dental Association (ADA) owes no legal duty of care to protect the public from allegedly dangerous products used by dentists. The ADA did not manufacture, design, supply or install the mercury-containing amalgams. The ADA does not control those who do. The ADA's only alleged involvement in the product was to provide information regarding its use. Dissemination of information relating to the practice of dentistry does not create a duty of care to protect the public from potential injury."

The Superior Court of the State of California
Case No. 718228, Demurrer (October 22, 1992)


I've actually done each one of these things and It's amazing how shifting perspective a little makes a huge difference in the response you get. We just have to keep telling them, one-by-one.

Hi Russ,
This sounds excellent to get people to listen which I'm sure will be helpful for me. I tell everyone about the dangers of mercury, heavy metal poisoning, and nerve damage, and I know how difficult it is to get these brain washed people to listen. What I can't understand is even when they know that something is harmful they just keep on doing it. Also even when they know their particular doctor or dentist is not to be trusted they keep on trusting them!!!

This is the discouraging thing about talking to others. Watching people suffer needlessly because they are too stuborn to change their ways. My parents are a great example of this. I can repeat myself over and over again until my face turns blue and they still choose to keep doing what their doing and they keep getting sicker and sicker too!!!

I admire your strong will to keep trying to help people that are too stuborn to listen. I need work in this area because I get so mad that people are the way they are. I don't get mad at the people in front of their face. Only when I think about it when I'm not in their presence is when I let off steam. I believe I get angry because I'm still suffering from the health problems I had for 25 years from heavy metal toxicity ( not the toxic sick feeling) from detoxing. I'm also suffering with a new set of health problems from the white composites I have now that are also toxic because, they have estrogen producing substances in them. Also I'm still suffering from nerve damage that can be extremely painful.

Acupuncture seems to work very well for this so far. I hope to get more money to get more treatments as it does add up for someone who is not working as myself. Maybe if I were more healthy, I would not be so angry. It seems like it will never end, because I still have to go back to another dentist to get these white composites out and get permanent crowns and bridges in. I'm scared to death as to what might go wrong next!!!
The first dentist over a 18 year period implanted mercury and other heavy metals in almost every single tooth. The 2nd dentist did such sloppy work that all my 10 unsealed crowns and fillings decayed and turned black in 1 year. The 3rd dentist I just went to took out all the metals, but replaced them with toxic white composites that can cause hormonal problems along with breast cancer. He also caused excusiating pain, and numbness from nerve damage.

Nerve damage has healed in healthy people but is difficult to get rid of in someone like me whos organs, especially the liver and kidneys aren't functioning properly. This is caused by toxic dental materials leaching out into my system dayly for about 39 years since I got my first amalgams in when I was 7 from other various dentists.

Because I am not healthy, nerve damage may take along time to heal. I need all the prayers I can get. Please pray for me!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

God bless you and this forum!!!

Scarlet, you've definitely been through the fire. Thanks for contributing to this forum even though it must be so much work for you to do so.

I cannot wait for the day when justice will be brought on those who have purposefully brought this suffering on us so they can increase their profit margin. I too hope people wake up and realize that their own taxed labors are used to oppress them with such suffering.

Like I always say: One day, when we share stories of this time with those in the future, they will hardly believe that the vast majority of people of this time accepted this suffering without resisting, fighting back, or even demanding justice.

It never ceases to astound me.

Of course, the problem is that dentists are STILL putting amalgam fillings into their unwary clients. It's so depressing to see my friends and family suffering from a host of different and unexplainable symptoms, not believing that it could possibly be amalgams (and thinking that I'm just going on about 'that thing' again). Sure, justice would be nice, but frankly, at this point I'd settle for them becoming illegal. The burden on the health system must be staggering, not to mention the personal suffering that's going to be inflicted tomorrow and into the future. I count myself that my symptoms have been relatively light, but I can see far worse problems in so many people I care about. How do you talk to people who've lived with many mercury fillings for decades and suffer from severe health problems that seem so likely to be related?

The question is, Russ, why are people so complacent? Too used to our creaturely comforts? Or something more? I know I have read somewhere that Hitler used fluoride to make the German people complacent. You can understand how this happens when fluoride depresses the thyroid. People with depressed thyroids slow down in every way, as the thyroid affects the whole body. Even thinking slows down - BIG TIME. That's how a population is made complacent. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

"why are people so complacent?"

Because the people going against the crowd are the ones that look like idiots even if the crowd is doing things to kill everyone. There is so much pressure from the wrong side of things that the right side isnt considered legit.

Look at smoking; I cant tell you how much it bothered me to be around people whom smoked but ... then again when you complain people look at you like your the one causing trouble (that's only starting to change now). IMO in the long run people wont blame the ADA or the vaccine makers for all the disease; I mean do we blame doctors for when people did blood letting in the middle ages? No people still worship doctors.

IMO it's not from a drug that people are complacent it's from other people and marketing.

Hello to both of you.

About justice...

I agree that getting amalgams made illegal is important and it really is a vital first step. I also believe in justice because if we let these people get away with this enormous crime, others will follow (and already are, actually).

About being apathetic...

Yes, fluoride is being forced in to many water supplies and I believe it is to make people "more controllable". Even more, when I had mercury in, I was extremely shy, afraid of authority, and I hated confrontation.

Now that my amalgams are out, bring it on!

I'm a new person and most of my fears just went away... gone. I am no longer afraid of "authority" or shy or afraid of confrontation. I've seen several studies that back this up as a known result of mercury and fluoride toxicity.

My opinion? Mercury and fluoride are being used to line the pockets of the "global elite" by keeping the masses from revolting at the blatent, corrupt money-making schemes they design. Having worked in politics for years, I've seen more than most ever will of the corruption.

It's time for a change back to integrity and accountability.

All the best!

Some great points there on how to bring up the subject, Russ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I too am trying to raise awareness on the issue, but it's extremely depressing. People just don't want to know. Even though they would close a school if mercury from a thermometer got on the floor, people just can't believe the same mercury is toxic in their mouth. It's weird that people believe mercury is safe in the teeth because they are told it is.

It's amazing how many people believe what they are told and just follow the crowd like sheep. I've always noticed this and have always been a black sheep, questioning everything, not doing anything because others were doing it. People just don't seem able to think for themselves. Also, they don't seem to care or think they are invincible or something. People smoke and drink a lot of alcohol, some even dabble in drugs, and then they complain when they get sick, even though everyone knows that smoking is bad. There is over 400 toxins in cigarette smoke alone, and this is released into the air, including mercury. I read that if someone put into the ground what is in cigarette smoke, they would be arrested. Yet, people smoke and around their kids, not caring that they breathe in the toxins which stay in the house. I don't understand it at all. That said, my father is a smoker (but doesn't smoke indoors), so I know how terribly hard it is to kick the habit, but he started over 40 years ago when people didn't really know about the dangers, but when I see young people light up, especially around babies, I am appalled for many reasons.

The amalgam issue gets to me really badly. I see so many people with walking sticks and other problems and the first thing that comes to my mind is mercury poisoning. I doubt all of them are poisoned, but I think of young people I've known over the years who now have MS, and can't help think it's the fillings and vaccines that did it. Never heard of MS when I was young. Now it's too common.

My grandparents both had false teeth from a young age and never had fillings, and both lived to ripe old age with little health problems. My grandfather was 86 and my grandmother 92. My other grandparents died younger, but they lived in harsher conditions - on a mountain with only a small fire for heat and no running water. Also my granded was a miner and worked with metal after that and he died at 60. He was also deaf because of the noise in the foundry he worked in.

I can't believe dentists here are still allowed to put mercury in peoples mouths and bodies. It's heartbreaking, but so few people seem to care. Thankfully it seems like the tide is changing and some countries that care more for their citizens than ours have banned it, and that gives hope that a change of government could make it illegal.

I totally agree Demi.

I am very saddened by the lack of response when I tell people that their fillings contain mercury. It's amazing to me, especially when I have reacted so differently. When Amy told me that my fillings contain mercury (I remember the day very well and will for the rest of my life), I was shocked and immediately began to research. Within weeks of that revelation, my amalgams were removed.

The thing that I always remember, however, is that scripture says that people are like sheep, and how true it is, and even though I want to call it quits sometimes—asking myself why I spend so much time talking to people and trying to educate them when they hardly seem to care—I remember that it is my responsibility to tell the truth and attempt to help people regardless of their response. Their response is their business. Believers are the watchman on the wall and my responsibility is to sound the alarm so that people have the opportunity to respond. How they respond is completely up to them.

I am encouraged, however, by the growing numbers that do respond in a positive way. The tide is indeed turning and there will be a day when all of this information that is basic to us on this forum will also be well known universally. We just have to keep telling them, one-by-one.

Arthur Schopenhauer, the 19th century philosopher, said:

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

The mercury issue is currently in stage 2. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

"Within weeks of that revelation, my amalgams were removed."

you know I probably would have done the same if it wernt for me for years of following the advice of people with no results.

Fortunately, I spent years throughout the 90s working in the information dept of a political party. Because of the incredible information the people in this party (a "third" party) has access to, I eventually—after much research—became a full-blown conspiratorialist, not by choice, but by evidence; I am a researcher.

This mindset enabled me to quickly accept the truth about the fact that toxic mercury was being installed in the mouths of innocent people every day. Without this wonderfully-educational background I received in the party, and the in-depth research I performed, I probably would have delayed for the same reason as you.

I hate theives and liars and the pro-mercury cartel is full of them. (I hope my passion about this subject is not out of place.) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

All the best <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

NOT ONLY MERCURY AMALGAMS ARE TOXIC, BUT ALMOST ALL OTHER DENTAL MATERIALS!!! READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Hi Russ,

[quote] Did you know that its not only mercury that is toxic in dental materials, but almost everything. Porcelein is not really porcelein. Its about 45% aluminum oxide which causes Alzeimers, just like mercury. Porcelein is called porcelein because its white. Most low grade gold has nickel, copper, piladium, etc that are toxic. Nickel is carcinogenic (cancer causing). Did you know that its even worse when you have a mixture of different metals in the same mouth, the reason why is because It causes elctrolysis. This makes the metals leach out into the body even more!!!



Most direct and indirect white composites have Bis- phenol A which is also called Bis-phenol GMA. These are estrogen behaving substances that can cause breast cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer, infertility, Poly cistic ovarian syndrome, prostrate cancer, and many many more hormonal problems!!! Some white composites have flouride in them too!!!



I had all of these in my teeth most of my life. Even most of the cements and etching gels are toxic!!! So I'm not only fighting to make mercury illegal, but all the other heavy metals, and other toxic dental materials!!!



Are you only fighting against mercury poisoning or all the toxic dental materials? If we only fight against mercury, than most dentists will replace them with other toxic dental materials, which won't improve the situation. Alot of them are doing this with most people. Thats what my dentists did to me. Alot of dentists would tell people that porcelein is not metal when it really is!!!

Also they say that all the white composites are safe when they really aren't.

Having your mercury amalgams replaced isn't the only thing we should be worrying about. Since many dentists are replacing them with other toxic materials. Its like trading one illness for another!!! All these toxic dental materials that I mentioned leach out into the body just like mercury does.



I had 5 root canaled teeth pulled out.
Did you know that root canals cause degenerative deseases? Saving a dead tooth is like saving a leg with gangreen. The bacteria slowly leaks into the body causing desease. Read "Root canal cover up" by George E. Meing. Also the standard dentists pull teeth, they don't clean around the bone which also causes bacteria and desease. A biological or holistic dentist normally does cavitations. I had 11 cavitations.



Unfortunately I ended up with constant numbness and pain due to Lingual and Inferior Aveolar nerve damage.



But quess what, even though this has happened, and I may have to live with it for the rest of my life, I can't find an attorney to represent me after I called about 20 Dental mal practise attorneys.



Many dentists are getting away with a lot more than just toxic dental materials. Their getting away with Lingual and Inferior Alveolar nerve damage. and its unbelievable how many other people are suffering from so much pain and numbness, and alot of dentists are getting away with it.
They can't find an attorney to represent them either!

Before the dentist that gave me nerve damage, I went to a nother dentist that was also a quack.I tryed to get a lawyer for this dentist because he didn't seal 10 fillings, along with 2 crowns which all decayed, and turned black within a year. He also didn't complete a root canal and fractured the one beside it. Therefore the fractured tooth needed a root canal also, because it abcessed. Even though the dental society admitted that he messed up all thoughs teeth, they said that the dentist was only responsible for paying me $1,800. Funny, that wasen't enough to cover the treatment of one tooth after all the damage that was done. There was so much damage that it caused a tremendous amount of bone loss. My face was getting so rapidly skinny that now I look like I wear dentures even though I don't.

The damage was so bad that 8 dentists refused to work on me, in the USA and Canada. Some wouldn't tell me why and others said it was too complicated. Since It is unethical to tell on one another, all these dentists never admitted that it was from the negligence of my dentist! 3 did shake their heads though in disscuss and said " who done this to you?." This went on for 1 and a 1/2 years.

After that I got so sick with heavy metal poisoning that the dentist were even more afraid to take me as their patient. They were probably worried that I was going to die right in their dentist chair from heavy metal poisoning.



Believe it or not , I could not get an attorney to represent me for this case of the unsealed teeth either even though I had the letter from the dental society to prove what happened.

Did you know that other people who even had an emergency with severe infections have also been refused by some dentists. Its allowed by law to refuse to give treatment to patients in some contries!!!



I am beyond mad, since I had to disperately find a dentist in a hurry, just because he was the only one who would get the metals out. It was than a race with the clock . Either I had to take the risk and go to that dentist or die. I had to fly all the way over to Colorado Springs to get treatment alone and as sick as I was too.

My 2 sisters didn't think it was serious enough to go with me. My fiance' wanted to go with me very badly but couldn't, since something serious happened to him at the time.

I was put to sleep for 9 and a 1/2 hours and woke up every hour saying," oh no, the needle again." Ever since than I've been numb and full of pain from nerve damage. Its about 5 months now since this has happened and I still have nerve damage.

This Biological dentist that took out the heavy metals replaced them with direct white composites that are full of Bis phenol A. He also gave me the nerve damage.

During all this I did alot of research, while I was stuck there in Colorado Springs at the Candlewood suites for 2 months. I was suppose to have only stayed for 3 weeks, but didn't because I was doing research on the internet for the dentist that should have known this already!!! After they made numerous mistakes, I didn't trust the dentist to place the permanent crowns with safe materials without giving me farther nerve damage, so I left with the temporaries in. Now I have to find another dentist to put the permanents in. I'm procrastinating because I'm scared to death at what else might go wrong!!!




So far I've found that the ( Laboratory processed composites): Diamondcrown, Diamondlite, Diamondlink(cement), and Diamondbond (etching gel), from Biodent Labs are the safest out of the white dental materials, cements, and etching gels. Also Holistic Gold that is from Zahn Labs is the safest out of the metal dental materials. It consists of 82% gold, 18%platinum, and less than 1% iridium. Iridium is toxic but it does not oxidize in the mouth or leach out.

Do your own research though. I hope I did enough research but just incase, I missed something you may want to research more on your own. [quote

I totally agree with what you wrote because I'm ready to fight against the government every way I can too!!!

Although I'm very shy, I get too mad to worry about it when I see people every where I go suffering from corrupt dentistry. ( <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Also although I'd rather be enjoying in life and would rather forget about the rest of the population I don't. Because I'm compelled to help people since I hate to see them suffer!!!

I like how ya think Russ!

I also am considered a Conspiracy theorist- but just like you- its from honest research for TRUTH , not from trying to be different or get attention.

What i tell folks is the truth-- 'getting my metal fillings out of my mouth was the best thing I did for myself and I already am feeling th e improvements of this step"

Thanks... It's nice to see so many thinking and caring people on this forum.

So...

Just to stimulate the mind a little, I found an excellent video I think people need to see. It's off the subject of this thread but too important to miss...

Loose Change, 2nd Edition

If you find this interesting, you may want to pass the link on to your friends and family. Here's the link:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848