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Voting to include God back in or not to include God back in their platform? I've never seen such a thing like that before a party actually trying to elimanate all mention of God and then to see Democrat delegates booing God, and Jerusalem. Wow! What voters of theirs are they trying to alienate anyway and even though through damage control it seems they tried to fix it we got a good glimpse at whats going on at the DNC. And it doesn't look good either. If it wasen't for those who complained and spoke out about it it seems the word God would have been taken totally out of their platform. Ya, let them do what they are going to do if not today they will probably do it tomorrow. So shall we wait till after the election to see or see it for what it really is today. Unbelievable but so true. DNC Rams 'God' and Jerusalem Back into Platform - Delegates at convention Boo, Hiss, Jeer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4z64YjfEaQ&feature=player_detailpageHave we seen enough already?
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As an ordained United Methodist Minister, I am here to attest and affirm that our faith and belief in God is central to the American story and informs the value we have expressed in our party's platform. If all people of faith left the Democrat party it would for sure it seems be the party of banning God and that is probably why there are still people left like the Minister written about above to keep the party from going completely Godless off the map by speaking out. Otherwise the booers would have got their wish, no doubt. They don't know how lucky they are to have any Ministers or people who believe in God left. Even Jesus Came to Save the Lost! Luke 19:10 What Jesus did. http://www.heartlight.org/wjd/luke/1106-wjd.htmlMaybe that's why the Ministers are still there to keep them from totally falling off the track. But will it be enough? I just don't know if it will. Will they lose the conservative democrats if they keep this behavior up? http://www.conservativevideos.com/2...k-into-platform-delegates-boo-hiss-jeer/ Will just the activist's rule the party if they all left? Is that what would happen then. And yes, they did because I saw the event on T.V... SHOCKING! DNC Schedules Muslim Prayers Ahead of Convention/Muslim B'Hood Connections! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ejf3G-pPBQ&feature=player_detailpage DNC Featuring Muslim Program - Cause for Alarm? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEP2abOs1f8&feature=relatedThe voters need to decide what this all means? I don't think the liberals even like Sharia Law they have lived in the land of the free for so long but that's part of their religion and you see what is happening overseas. I believe in freedom of religion but there is no freedom of religion where Sharia Law rules. Cause For Alarm? Only the voters will know for sure as for the DNC 'unbelievable they had to vote on it at all. God Bless America My home sweet home. And the Bill Of Rights And The Constitution. And the freedom so far.... to cast a vote. And decide..... Hmmmmm....
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Enjoy Your Political Freedom?
Then why take it from somebody else as lots of Christian Democrats, Conservative Democrats and this voting block seems to be " Highly " taken for granted. And Blasphemy Laws are up again for vote at the U.N and our next President will get to deal with that so what is it going to be?
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Franklin Graham asked President Obama to protect people in Sudan from genocide by bombing roadways and runways so they can't get to them. He did not ask the President to kill anybody but just bomb runways so they can't get to these people who just want to be free and left alone. But President Obama "WOULD NOT" do it because it seems to others that he doesn't want to offend Muslim Extremists.
If he will not protect the Christians or people who want to be free from harm there...What makes us believe He will protect freedom and Christians or any other then one with Muslim beliefs here. That....that day will not come. There is no freedom of speech over there as there is no Freedoms Endowed by our Creator over there it's only suffering and torment and endowed by our way of life....Plus...
Being offended by the way one votes or thinks or their religious beliefs is not a good reason for Genocide. But that's what they do. We need to vote against that too! Tyranny, and those that want to take away our constitution and free speech and enforce blasphemy laws on everybody else who may not believe such as them. Free speech for most of the world is at stake. Under Blasphemy laws, plus they are up for a vote again in weeks at the U.N and the/ our President will have a say in that..
And then people watched what went on at the platform at the DNC and who was invited and who was not and what was put back in the platform and who was not up for speaking but... finally allowed to speak at the DNC.. With uproar! But is that still even enough, anymore? Is it?
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 - LYNN, You just now asked in the Shout Box about the Bill enforcing vaccination on the population?Here's an update: The AMA Propose New Law To Force Everyone To Take Part In Experimental Vaccine Trials Christina England October 25, 2012 The American Medical Association (AMA) recently published a paper proposing the introduction of a new law to force you and your children into experimental vaccine trials against your wishes. Your only way out of this directive would be to sign an ´opt out form.'In January, AMA published a paper by Susanne Sheehy, BM BCh, MRCP, DTM&H, and Joel Meyer, BM BCh, MRCP on the ´Virtual Mentor´ website, stating that there has been a steady decline in the numbers of healthy volunteers willing to participate in clinical trials. The AMA believes that more people should want to help in the development of new vaccinations. They stated: "Reasons for this decline are unclear but are likely to be multifaceted. One familiar problem is the payment of volunteers. To date, the relatively meager compensation that participants often receive could be seen to belittle and undervalue the contribution of these individuals to global health." VOLUNTEER PARTICIPATION TO BECOME A THING OF THE PAST Because of the decline in willing volunteers, the AMA has decided that volunteer participation in vaccination trials should become a thing of the past. They said: "If progression of promising vaccines from the lab to the clinic is to remain unaffected and financial inducement is an ethically unacceptable solution to the recruitment shortage, other strategies need to be considered. Compulsory involvement in vaccine studies is one alternative solution that is not as outlandish as it might seem on first consideration. Many societies already mandate that citizens undertake activities for the good of society; in several European countries registration for organ-donation has switched from "opt-in" (the current U.S. system) to "opt out" systems (in which those who do not specifically register as non-donors are presumed to consent to donation, and most societies expect citizens to undertake jury service when called upon." That´s right; according to the AMA we should all sign 'opt out' forms if we do not want to participate in vaccination trials. If, for some reason, we should forget to do this, then we should automatically be classified as giving passive consent! In my opinion, agreeing to be a guinea pig for a vaccination trial is a little different from undertaking jury service, whether it is for the good of society or not. As for organ donation, there is one small fact the AMA appears to have forgotten; when our organs are taken, we are already dead! I say this because a paper released fresh off the press makes abundantly clear just how catastrophic mistakes can be when vaccinations are fast-tracked onto the market.
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Oh Abigail, (((( Smiles )))) Thank You So Much! What would I do without you I just don't know! The AMA Propose New Law To Force Everyone To Take Part In Experimental Vaccine Trials
Christina England October 25, 2012
The American Medical Association (AMA) recently published a paper proposing the introduction of a new law to force you and your children into experimental vaccine trials against your wishes. Your only way out of this directive would be to sign an ´opt out form.'
We have already been taking part in their expiremental projects it seems but of course it is more then just that. It makes us lose trust when it comes to their so called concern over our health. When we know what it entails whats in the vaccines they inject into us.
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Separation of Church and State Does NOT mean Separation from God! Our Founding Fathers did not see it that way they believed in a Creator one that we are Endowed by. The Bible is the book that says all is equal! There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:28 all are endowed by a Creator that...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That's where our Constitution came from that's where our oneness comes from that's where the idea of womens rights came from. And Nature's God means there was a God a Creator nature has a God. Yet, the D.N.C seemed to want to give that away and become endowed by our government? instead of a Creator " God" and replace it with what? After seeing what went on at the D.N.C it seems like they want to drink from that cup and give it all away to what and who? Plus, Islamic law is not better then our Constitutional Rights based on the concepts found in the Bible which " IS" their Founding Fathers and we the people's God their Creator back then wether very religious or not just look at the churchs they did attend back then and that tells us what God they based the Declaration of Independence on... and the The First Amendment Amendment "Number 1" was based on Religious Freedoms and protection it's part of our Bill of Right's it's right at the top the "NUMBER 1! And they want to take that all away and replace it with.. Did we get a glimpse of what at the D.N.C? I think they need to think this one over more before they do that again or even think of changing it at all! Enjoy Your Political Freedom and Rights to Believe As You May And Speak Freely About It! Thank God for the Bill Of Rights and Our Constitution!
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We Hold These Truths To Be Self-Evident And Our Society Is Built Upon This!
A Self Evident Truth. Plus it does say our rights come from our Creator and the first right is LIFE it's an unalienable Right, life. A Self Evident Truth that the Creator gave us life and we have a right to it and The First Amendment says nothing about the separation of church and state.
It names Congress: that Congress is not to legislate a national religion or prohibit us to freely exercise our religion or congressional attempts to abridge our freedoms.
It seems like these days it's more about trying to take away our religious freedoms and the free expression of then trying to preserve them. Plus, the Founding Fathers are right about not Congress to legislate a national religion because we see what happens in countries that do have a State Governmental Religious Totalitarian System....
The religious authorites take over and the peoples freedom's of worship get stomped on and abuses can happen. Faith and Freedom is much better. Don't give our freedoms away.
So what was the D.N.C trying to do what message was it trying to send?
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Enjoy Your Political Freedom? Do we trust our eyes or do we trust what is being told to us but not by all the media' and that's one reason why lots of Democrats see the Democrat party as UNBELIEVABLE? Muslims can be the most dedicated believers when they come across an encounter with the historical Jesus. The Prince of Peace the Messiah Lord of Lords King of Kings. Yet, Sharia Law is NOT like everybody else and what is happening in Egypt and in other Middle Eastern countries is NOT LIKE everybody else. Plus, should we trust our eyes and what is written or our media which seems to be full of propaganda these days. So what are they trying to do theses days? Whitewashing Islam: 20 Errors on 20/20 (ABC News) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ5Bwj3iTrgAnd we have to ask ourselves why are they doing it? And what do they want to acomplish by it? And is free speech still cherished these days and for liberals how many planned parenthoods do they have in the middle east anyway these days? And not that I support Planned Parenthood but womens and girls rights where fought so hard for in Western Society and what took decades and decades to recieve are they so willing just to throw it all away? And do they support Sharia Law instead of our precious bill of rights in our courts? What does the Democratic Party stand for these days anyway it seems to have a case of contridictory agenda's .. Enjoy Your Political Freedom? Will the future be just as freedom loving as the past with freedom of the press freedom of belief and speech? And are liberals truly liberal anymore time will tell for sure what they really believe and not all Democrats are liberal and will even more eventually leave the party?
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How young can a child be married under Sharia Law? Do we really want that to be part of our culture for our children here and why are Islamic blocking sex trafficing laws in Egypt which they are in one part of taking over the country and are they saying this is part of our religion as... Age Of Consent MUSLIMS: Watch this video and you´ll leave Islam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MbdiXxJWRI&feature=player_detailpageLot's of people find this disturbing and changing marriage's definition to add anything in any way seems like a slippery slope to many people because who's morals do we go by? How many people do we want to bring into a family of a man and a women or mother or father and possible kids? To change one thing in that term could be a pathway to change many things under that term and we can't plead morally right just make it up as we go in what is moral or not. Legislating a morallity a no no? Everybody is trying to legislate a morallity heard about female circumcision and most American's see that as morally wrong so are people who do not want to change the definition of marriage based on what they see as morale issues or slippery slope issues so strange of a concept? To be understood? Egyptian Islamist against Prevention of Sex Trafficking in Women and Children in Constitution http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=584_1350302022&comments=1The video here maybe on you tube as well. So far Youtube is a place of free speech free speech is important is it not?
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That's a good Site but in case one doesn't want to go there but go to youtube instead. Democracy, one man, one vote, one time! Democracy, it worked well for them. Egyptian Islamist Opposed to Constitution Clause Preventing Sex Trafficking http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4Ft7mPrODS4Is this the kind of world you want to live in? One that protect's it's most vunerable citizens or one that doesn't protect them that is the choice we face today. How are we going to treat our citizens that's what it is all about. Or the abuser as this could lead to abuse. Could it not? Enjoy your political freedoms! Enjoy your kids your nieces and nephews the ones you want to protect and love and the rights of other children who live through abuse on this planet. It's a moral issue.. Is it not?
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I Think The Democrat Party Is Going To Eventually Have To Deal With This When They Finally Wakeup! Many have and Sharia Law is Not like any other like in Egypt and didn't they say if they were elected they wouldn't do what they are doing now over there? And what are they doing now? Enjoy Your Politcal Freedom? Three Things About Islam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w
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Reaching Out To Women and The Effects Of Sharia Law.. Enjoy Your Polical Freedom? and Where Did That Freedom Come From? Egyptian-Muslim converts to Christianity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6f6sAj5xoIndividual Rights (First Admendment) United States Law versus Islamic Sharia not sure what the difference is? Then get educated and make an informed choice to protect our (First Admendment) individual rights and other human rights under the laws that Our Founding Fathers fought so hard for and look what is happening overseas? Hundreds protest against Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOUVJ6cYeg4They say NO to the Muslim Brotherhood yet... Do we want what is happening over there happening here? Muslim Brotherhood in America, Part 1: The Threat Doctrine of Shariah & the Muslim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs0xw5hPWVQDo we? They look unhappy and we could be too if we don't protect our freedoms over here. Muslim Brotherhood in America, Part 2: 'Civilization Jihad' in America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PENiSQF-aJ8Muslim Brotherhood in America, Part 3: Influence Operations Against Conservatives http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuV5_CxHNnMWill we let our country be destroyed from within.. Will we? Muslim Brotherhood in America, Part 4: Suhail Khan, A Case Study in Influence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIfp11jaB98Look whats happening in Europe do we want that happening here? Democracy coming to the Middle East why yes.. One Man, One Vote, One Time worked for them.
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Here's To Life, Liberty And The Pursuit Of Happiness And The selling Of Current TV for.... I read 500 million to Al-Jazzere... Way To Go Al Gore and then whatever happened to global warming... A former reporter found anti-american bias and quit? Is that right? http://www.cjr.org/the_water_cooler/dave_marash_why_i_quit.php?page=allI think we should have a clear concept of where our politicans stand and what they believe before we vote for them but that doesn't always seem to be the case as when we are taken totally by surprise at times by what they do. Interesting.... Enjoy Your Political Freedom?
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Al Gore sells Current TV to Al-Jazeera, nets reported $100 million. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wdyjbh8y7IGlobal warming oil and Gas Oh My? Do they even go together? Is this another climategate? Everybody has an agenda we just need to decide what that agenda could be.
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--Good Find, Lynn! The man has totally lost what little bit of common sense that he had! And our country is in debt to China for $2-3 Trillion Dollaras!!!???  WAKE UP PEOPLE! DEMOCRATS, Come on now, tell us this is for the benefit of the USA! MALARKY!  --[EDITED] -Obama & Congress Giving Fighter Jets, Tanks to Muslim BrotherhoodPosted on January 3, 2013 by creeping via Fighter Jets for Muslim Brotherhood | Middle East Turmoil, American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ. With a continuing moral crisis in America, the fight over whether we continue to spend taxpayer money we don’t have, it is unthinkable that the Obama Administration would be willing to spend $213 million to give arms to Egypt.Yet, the United States is poised to give the Muslim Brotherhood-led government of Egypt 200 M1A1 Abrams battle tanks and 20 F-16 fighter jets. These represent some of America’s best, most sophisticated weaponry – used today by our men in women in uniform. This gift will increase Egypt’s M1A1 tanks by 20% and represents nearly a 10% increase in Egypt’s F-16 fighter jets. This is not an insignificant award of firepower or finances, costing American taxpayers $213 million for the fighter jets alone. But it is also extremely important to know to whom we are giving these highly sophisticated weapons. Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, recently declared himself above the law. While he claims to have partially backed down from this power grab, he then declared martial law in order to secure the passage of a new radical Shariah law based constitution put forward by the Muslim Brotherhood. Morsi’s martial law decree allowed the military to detain opponents of the proposed constitution until after the results of the national referendum were announced. The Muslim Brotherhood waged a significant intimidation campaign to keep Christians from voting against the radical Islamic constitution. Islamists took to the streets shouting, “Islamic, Islamic, despite the Christians.” As a result of these Islamist intimidations tactics, the new radical Shariah law-based constitution passed overwhelmingly, ushering in what Morsi called “the second republic.” The newly passed constitution significantly expands the role of Shariah law and Islamic clerics’ role in interpreting it. Secularists, women, and Christians had protested by walking out of the panel drafting the new Shariah law based constitution. The last thing that the U.S. government needs to be doing is borrowing more money from China to pay for sophisticated weaponry to give to this new radical Shariah government that readily suspends the rule of law over its own people.
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Florida Rep. Vern Buchanan, who recently called for ending foreign aid to Egypt altogether, told FoxNews.com last month the Muslim Brotherhood-backed Morsi government has been sending increasingly troubling signals to Washington, and giving it state-of-the-art fighter jets is a dangerous idea.
“American tax dollars must not be used to aid and abet any dictatorial regime that stands with terrorists,” Buchanan said.
No American dollars to any regime. Period. It’s not why we pay taxes and it’s not what the Founders intended.
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Our President "already" has started sending the military weapons to the muslim brotherhood who has lately given an Egyptian women and her seven kids and others who helped her "15" years in prison for trying to convert back to Christianity after her husband died. http://theundergroundsite.com/2013/01/17/egypt-family-gets-15-years-for-christian-conversion-48937Plus also has given a U.S Citizen Pastor Saeed for his Christian faith 8 years in prison and has been beaten and tortured. How in the world could OUR PRESIDENT EVER SEND WEAPONS TO SUCH HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSER'S weapons they can use on their own people or us or our allies! Plus, to borrow the money we will have to pay back that we don't have.... to give them weapons we need should infuriate the American public who do enjoy their freedoms. One would think?
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Moral relativism has worked really well as it has done wonders for our country and government it just keeps getting worse. Either there is a right or a wrong or nobody is corrupt because whats right for them may not be right for you or me. So who gets hurt?
Can anymore in America take a stand and be right anymore?
Is it right to silence people that we do not agree with or is it right for nations to hold political prisoners because of how they think or believe. Is it right to become the thought police. Is that what totalitarian countries are made of a country run with only one political party that becomes the thought police. For those hoping for one party only with one Stalinism type country not under God but endowered by our dictator..
Enjoying your political freedom?
The ones our Founding Fathers fought for and gave us.
Is it really that horrible.
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Unbelievable Again! Are we getting a glimpse of whats going on at the DNC ramming God and Jerusalem back in and them maybe out again? After seeing what has been going on at the Obama Adminstrations IRS "groups being targeted" less they forget that... The Democrat Christian voting block is still strong as the religious makeup of the Electorate included Catholics, Protestant and some Evangelical voters.
And of the high percentage of Black voters and Hispanic voters many are Christian. But more and more people feel that wether President Obama knew what has been going on or not. Perception is the key and that the DNC platform pre-election announcement is making many believe that Free Speech, Freedom of Viewpoint and Religious Freedom in general.... Our First Amendment Rights may not be respected by many in the DNC. One might think. One might think.
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But more and more people feel that wether President Obama knew what has been going on or not. Perception is the key and that the DNC platform pre-election announcement is making many believe that Free Speech, Freedom of Viewpoint and Religious Freedom in general....
Our First Amendment Rights may not be respected by many in the DNC. One might think. One might think.
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Sometimes we grumble about goverment and other officials. But a proper respect for authority honors God. Paul, who had his own problems with those in charge, wrote, "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities" (Rom. 13:1). And later, "Do what is good, and you will have praise from [the authorities]" (v.3)
As we let God's Spirit teach us, we can have a healthy attitude toward government. It's for our good, the testimony of our faith, and most of all for God's honor.
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Billy Graham and Franklin Graham were audited too as well as others. There was also a questionaire of an issue about what the contents of a person or their friends etc... "prayers are" many are protesting about that one too. We are subject to but we can speak out as well about whats happening. And also what happened at the DNC Convention and the mindset that may have lead to this type of event. I would also protest as well if it was a reverse situation and the IRS went after Public Citizen and other groups such as that too for their political views if I believed that's why they were doing it. It doesn't look good and people should speak out if their targeting. Rev Franklin Graham talks IRS targeting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcrLVOj9UTEJay Sekulow on Fox News: IRS to be Sued for Targeting Conservatives . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0kZw_cw0h0 .Jordan Sekulow on Fox News with Geraldo: Lawsuits Against IRS for Abuses . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1L6bqGbdeM Any abuses need to stop. http://aclj.org/Billy Graham and Franklin Graham do what is good they are alot better then I am. Any targeting needs to stop.
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Muslim immigrants - farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities," but history says the Chinese helped build the railroads what is he doing?
Secrets of our universe is that what we voted for?
Celebrates Ramadan: "Islam Has Contributed To The Character Of Our Country....
What about Shariah Law?
Does that matter to the Democrats?
Does it? Real Politics Video
(chloros) means "green" like chlorine and clorophyll, the same color as the "green" grass in the springtime.
Is that where we are at?
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Helped To Unlock the secrets of our universe? Build our cities what about our Founding Fathers? What about them? President Obama Speech to Muslim World in Cairo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_889oBKkNUObama Celebrates Ramadan At White House http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgPxLhi-HGIPeople should be free yet we see.... Something different going on.. Protect our First Amendment
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