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#6653 03/27/06 12:43 PM
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I just posted this at another forum...This is very interesting.

Before I knew that I had mercury poisoning I began journaling my symptoms on calendars...I did this for two years. At the time I thought my strange symptoms were hormone related. Anyway, I was trying my best to do some detective work on my own. The only time I would jot symptoms down was when they were especially bad. When looking over the two years of notations I noticed that from October until May there were TONS of notes, particularly during the colder months. (I live in western PA.) And from the end of May through Sept., hardly any. (This does not mean that symptoms were non-existent during the warmer months...just not climbing the walls.) [color:"blue"] [/color] [color:"blue"] [/color]

This past Oct. I went with my husband on a business trip to Raleigh, North Carolina. (This was also before I discovered that I had mercury poisoning.) I was fairly apprehensive about going since I had been so sick. We drove there and to our surprise I had minimal symptoms for the entire week. We couldn't believe it! I slept throught the night fine and had a decent time. Then as were driving home my symptoms became severe as we entered the colder climate. It was literally like someone had flipped a switch.

Since finding out that I am mercury poisoned, I've read that symptoms are generally worse at night, when the temperature drops. This has been true for me. Temperature seems to play a big part, at least in my case, so I'm thinking that chelation may be easier during the warmer months.

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I noticed that the winter months were worse with February always the worst of all. I didn't know if it was the cold or the dehydration because of the heat running all the time. This was my best February that I have had in 10 years. Usually I get depressed and have no motivation for anything.

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I too live in Western PA (Pittsburgh) and noticed my symptoms are much worse in the winter as well. I always attributed that to lack of sunshine and not being able to go outside for nature hikes and what not, but the cold whether definitely causes me to tense up more and makes me more uncomfortable which can definitely worsen my symptoms.

I also notice that no matter what supplements I take or don't take, my symptoms usually are the worse on Mondays and Tuesdays as well. I find this very odd, and used to blame it on work (I have a stressful job as a cook Thurs-Sun) but when I was off for 2 months because of a kitchen fire my symptoms were still always worst on Mondays and Tuesdays.

Wierd. Looks like we should move south.

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Hmmm... It's interesting that you've found such a tight pattern and nailed it down so well.

Let me ask this.

Have you noticed chemtrails are more prevalent on those days in your area?

The reason I ask is that in 1999, the FAA mandated that a horrible pesticide be put into jet fuel, and as chemtrails have become more common, people across the U.S. and England and several other countries have been reporting much higher rates of illness, especially pertaining to muscle aches, sinus problems and fatigue.

There are also reports that people have done tests and found very high amounts of barium, a toxin that would cause exactly the symptoms outlined above, at times when chemtrails appear. I have made the same correlation myself with my "new" health issues.

ChemTrails

No ChemTrails

Just a thought.

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Man...I always wondered why some trails from jets lingered so long in the sky.

Thats just absolutely terrible, but I would rather know the truth than live in ignorance. Thank you for making me aware of this Russ.

Edited to add: I just went for a walk, and it was supposed to be a nice nearly cloudless day according to weather channel but the sky was covered in white blurry streaks. I then saw 3 planes leaving chemtrails behind them to form a triangle of chemtrails...and chemtrails were just sitting there all along the horizon. I did see a few contrails that disappeared fast behind planes at the same altitude as well.

This is really disturbing. I couldn't even tell you how many chemtrails I noticed in a 15 minute walk. Over 10 though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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I just got back from dinner part of our sky is almost completely covered with them. I've been taking photos all day and will post them soon, but here's a sample. These are from a few hours ago. It's a lot worse now. Seems they always hit hard around drive time/rush hour.

View From My Office Window

<img src="http://herballure.com/Images/Misc/ChemTrails/2006-03-27/OfficeWindow.jpg">

<img src="http://herballure.com/Images/Misc/ChemTrails/2006-03-27/OfficeWindow2.jpg">

View From My Kitchen Window

<img src="http://herballure.com/Images/Misc/ChemTrails/2006-03-27/KitchenWindow.jpg">

<img src="http://herballure.com/Images/Misc/ChemTrails/2006-03-27/KitchenWindow2.jpg">




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So - who is doing this and why? I mean, don't the bad guys breathe air, too, and presumably would want to avoid this?


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Why?

Money, power, and population control.

Monsanto—the same good people who brought you NutraSweet—developed agricultural seeds that can grow in soil that has a lot of heavy metals and only when activated with their brand of fertilizer. Legislation is being passed that is forcing certain types of agriculture to use these seeds if they want government subsidies. These seeds are highly resistant to barium, which is one of the components in certin kinds of chemtrails.

Barium causes a myriad of diseases in humans because it depletes potassium which causes heart problems (heart attacks) and respiratory issues (have you taken your potassium today). Incidently, over-the-counter potassium supplements above 99mg have been outlawed in the U.S.

United Nations agenda 21 calls for sweeping population control measures to be taken by member countries, but you have to ask yourself, "How you do 'control' population?" A more accurate phrase describing the U.N. proposal would be "Population Reduction".

A patent filed several years ago describes a way to control weather by ionizing (saturating with metal ions) the atmosphere with barium and using low-frequency electromagnetic waves to literally redirect the jet stream thereby, to a large degree, control weather.

HAARP is a huge, very powerful low-frequency emf (electromagnetic frequency) generator strategically located in Alaska and is capable of intimately affecting a barium-ionized atmosphere.

Shall I go on.

There's an old saying:

"The most brilliant thing the devil ever did was to convince the world that he doesn't exist."

If you picture evil in the world as being some playful prankster with a pitchfork, then evil has succeeded in rocking you to sleep while the powers-that-be utilize technology to bring about the fulfillment of apocalyptic Biblical prophecies.

Funny how so many seem to think that God is the one who brings all the bad stuff about. Actually, He has been warning us.

"And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done."

Genesis 8:21

Just when people begin to think the Bible isn't relevant in the modern world, the prophecies begin to unfold before our eyes in dramatic ways, clearly visible to those who know what to look for.

These things will sound strange to some, but they really are nothing new. They are simply the result of tremendous technology in the hands of amoral people, funded by your tax dollars, or course. But then, all tyrannies have been funded by the very ones who are oppressed by it. Not much has changed.

And as for the ChemTrails...

The bad guys have the remedy.

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gdawson...

You're welcome. I'm glad I could help you notice these things like this just as many have helped me notice things that may have passed me by, and I am forever grateful.

As a kid, I always loved planes and jets and I would always look up into the sky when I heard one. I remember contrails well, but never saw chemtrails until the past couple of years.

It's funny, I remember seeing these trails over the past year or two. I occasionally go on long day trips and do photography and I noticed how hard it was to get a good picture that included the sky without having some man-made junk in the sky get captured in the picture. I only noticed this in that pas few years but never though much of it except that it was frustrating.

This past year, I came across a website explaining what many believe are going on. After some research, it all began to make sense, especially considering my background in political research.

It's related to this subject as well...

Did you know they are also trying to force fluoride into bottled water?

If you know about the fluoride coverup, you know it causes cavities (yes, you heard me correctly), osteoperosis, bone cancer, neurological disorders, and behavioral disorders. In fact, I heard (I have not confirmed this) that is was used in Nazi prison camps to keep prisoners docile.

The powers-that-be are trying to force fluoride into our bottled water. Avoiding fluoride is the single biggest reason I avoid drinking tap water.

Here is a link that may interest you. In order for the powers-that-be to do evil things, it must be legal (not always, but usually). In case you're wondering how they can get away with spraying harmful stuff in our air, read this:

Public Law 105-85

Google the term "chemtrails" and you'll find a lot of interesting information.

Take care.


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Yes I have been avoiding flouride at all costs. I drink Tyler Spring Water I buy in 5 gallon jugs and Gertolsteiner mineral water in glass liters only. The mineral water is a great source of natural calcium and magnesium ions. I'ts probably going to take a while to get all this flouride out of my system which I have been accumulating my whole life (only 20 years), but getting rid of the source is always the first step. I do show signs of flourosis (white spots) on some teeth though so I know its in me.

I did know about the flouride in the concentration camps as well.

I checked out 2 books from the library on chemtrails. HAARP : the ultimate weapon of the conspiracy / by Jerry E. Smith and Angels don't play this HAARP : advances in Tesla technology / Nick Begich and Jeane Manning.

This is really bad news...and having faith is one of the only options for keeping sanity when you know things like this... If your not willing to have faith that everything will be ok in the end (and by ok, I mean the pain and suffering will have to end at some point), then I reccomend you don't read up on this kind of stuff.

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Section 1078(b) is pretty broad and highly interpretive, isn't it!!!

Yes, some of the predictions in the Bible seem to describe that which is happening now. There is a reason I tend to identify more with animals than the human race: we humans took a very wrong turn somewhere, way back. And nothing but the intervention of God himself can turn us around. But it isn't going to be pretty.

People with an interest in natural health know that our symptoms occur in order that something even worse doesn't happen. Of course, if the symptoms keep being suppressed with un-natural medicine, then the point of no return is reached. I think this applies to the symptom of evil people poisoning all of us through chemtrails , but most of us just look the other way - back to the beer, pizza and porn.

Thank you v. much for answering my question on "who is doing this" in an easy to understand manner. Now I can look up more info for myself, as you have given me a place to start.


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This is really bad news...and having faith is one of the only options for keeping sanity when you know things like this... If your not willing to have faith that everything will be ok in the end (and by ok, I mean the pain and suffering will have to end at some point), then I reccomend you don't read up on this kind of stuff.


I agree.

It really takes a lot of courage (faith) to study these things out. In fact, in the early 90's when I first started learning about these things—basically by accident—I knew I wanted the truth but got so scared that I tell people I lost sleep for 2 years, which is true. It's frightening. It actually made me get serious about my relationship with God.

Some people choose to go into denial because and pretend this just doesn't exist. I've had people tell me they'd rather not know. These are too afraid to face these things. Then, ironically, some of them call conspiratorialists paranoid, when it's actually they who are being cowardly.

The truth is hard and heaven is not for cowards.

Thanks for posting. I'm surprised they had the HAARP book at the library.

Take care.

Carla...

Some of the predictions in the Bible cannot be mistaken to be anything other than something happening right now. For example, Isiah speaks about the Arabah, this is the desert next to the dead sea. There are some amazing things there that are happening right now. (Arabah is mistranslated desert in most modern translations in Isiah).

The Bible talks about taking the mark. Those who do will not be saved. Of course, they have to have knowledge about this before they can refuse to take the mark. So those who don't read scripture will likely fall into the trap of not being saved. This is one reason it's very important to study.

I'm glad the information in the previous post worked for you.

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#6665 03/28/06 03:29 PM
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after looking at the chemtrial site a couple of months ago, I have paid more attention to the sky and its appearance. I told my husband about them, he said that he had heard something about them, but thought that they were only in the unpopulated west area. Russ, do you know if they are also here in the south (Alabama)? It sure looks like it to me.
By the way, moving south isn't the answer for the cold winter effects on symptoms unless you go into south Florida maybe!

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ChemTrails are in most or perhaps all states of the U.S., including Florida. I lived a little north of Tampa most of my life. They are also in many foreign countries, like England, Germany, New Zealand, etc.

We need to hold those who are committing this this horrible crime responsible for their actions.


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Speaking of Fluoride, does anyone know of a filter that gets rid of fluoride in our water. The gov't insists on putting it in, and we not only get fluoride when we drink it, but when we bathe in it, wash dishes, water our gardens, etc. etc. I know there are filters that get rid of chlorine, but most do not get rid of fluoride. I use a distiller for drinking water, but I don't want fluoride in my bath water, dishwater, etc. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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If there was such a filter, the gov't would probably ban it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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Reverse Osmosis Filters remove flouride. Another option is finding a place where you can buy 5 gallons of flouride free spring water, I can get these from my local coop for $4 for a 5 gallon bottle of trusted spring water.

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Some people are of the opinion that the reverse osmosis procedure deranges the water molecule and thus it is not fit for human consumption. Anyone have any opinion on this?


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Yes I have heard that, but I have also heard that if you buy an RO unit that passes it through a carbon filter afterwards that it is fine to drink. Who knows, so much confusing info and technology today.

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I've heard that KDF filters remove fluoride, however, I've never researched it myself so I don't know for sure.

I'm researching and purchasing a water filter in the next month or so and I'll post the results in the Purchasing a Water Filter forum when I decide which one to get.


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I don't think KDF removes flouride actually...the only filter that I've seen remove flouride was a part or a 2 or 3 chamber water filter that used aluminum to remove flouride, which seemed a little scary to me.

I researched it heavily a month ago and it just was very frustrating, so I just decided to keep on using the spring water in the 5 gallon jugs.

BTW, It was beautifully sunny out and there wasn't a chemtrail in the sky all day! not even at 5 pm. I was really worried they were going to be there all day everyday but maybe you were right and that they are only common on mondays and tuesdays here. I will keep my eye out!

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If anyone knows of a filter that does remove fluoride, I'd love to know about it.


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This is the only one I found
http://www.crystalclearsupply.com/Custom_Triple_Undercounter_Water_Filter_p/uct.htm

But heres what it says about the flouride filter
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Contains fine-mesh pre-conditioned Activated Alumina to reduce fluorides below 0.5 ppm. Its capacity is up to 11,000 ppm with effluent levels below 0.2 ppm from 10 ppm feed. Note: high pH and high bicarbonate levels reduce the capacity - above 100 ppm bicarbonate, reduce by 50%; above 200 ppm, reduce by 75%. Also effectively removes arsenic.

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Thanks. I'm gonna' check into it.


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Ann Louise Gittleman (nutritionist) recommended Doulton water filter, Clean water Revival- Environmental Protection Products, Inc. They have a separate unit that removes flouride.

Russ, what can we do to stop the chemtrials?

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Missy,

Thanks for the info about water filters. I will look into this.

About chemtrails...
  • We need to first make more people aware of it
  • We need to approach local legislators and bring it to their attention as well
  • We need to find professors, doctors, or other people with access to scientific instruments who can verify the presence of the chemicals associated with chemtrails to make it more "real" to the general public.

This is a serious problem and I'l glad to see you're wondering what you can do about it.

Here are some tips to help you accomplish those things in the list above.
  • Put a link to a chemtrails forum or webpage at the bottom of each and every email you send.
  • Put a link to the same on your website, if you have one. If you don't, get one and put links on it. You can get websites for free and I'll even give webspace to people who are interested in doing this.
  • Put links to the law that allows chemtrails to legally exist everywhere as well. Here's the page I link people to:

    http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/sh...&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
  • Tell people in casual conversation by working it something like this:

    "Have you heard about the U.S. government experiments releasing barium and aluminum over populated area?"

    This way, you're not taking a controversial position with people, you're actually asking them about themselves and making them aware of it with subtletly.
  • Make business cards with phrases that intrigue like,

    U.S. Tests Chemicals on Citizens
    <put a link here>

    Then put a link to a website about the subject below the phrase. Leave this card on the table or in the "sweetener" bin at the local restaurant. You'll be surpised how many people will visit the website. Intrigue is powerful.
  • Put a bumpersticker about it on your car.
  • Go to a local sign maker and put a website address about it on your back window.
  • Call a radio talk show and bring it up by asking a question about it and saying something intelligent like, I know these can't be contrails because..."
  • Get a ChemTrail shirt and wear it a lot.
  • Put a poster up in your place of business
  • Start a blog are write about it. You can do this for free at places like BlogSpot.
  • Also, feel free to put links to pictures like my small but growing gallery of chemtrails:

    http://russtanner.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=719

    http://russtanner.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=762

Hope this helps.

If enough people do just a few little things, you'll be shocked by how fast the word get's out.

Do you know that a CNN poll said over 82% of Americans believe the Gov't is covering up information about 911. This awareness is growing because people are putting up links and websites all over, plus doing other small things.

Let me know if you decide to do something and if you think it works.

I'm also serious about giving away webspace in case anyone out there is interested. I'll show people how to work with the space and how to make links, etc.


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I read 1/2 of the book "Angels don't play this HAARP : advances in Tesla technology " / Nick Begich and Jeane Manning, and all I can say is that the toxins found in contrails are only a very small part of the problem. They are messing with the ionosphere and the natural energy balance in the world in ways that could very well throw the world out of balance and uncapable of supporting intelligent life.

If you can read those books, they are very good.

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This is not about chemtrails, but you mentioned throwing the "world out of balance" and so I'd like to mention something I read years ago in the Whole Earth Reviewe. Someone there suggested that all those billions of gallons of oil we are sucking out of the earth is serving a purpose IN the earth, and we will suffer eventually for taking this out of its natural place. Something to do with keeping the earth cool. Has anyone ever heard such a theory?


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The only theory like that I have heard was made up by myself actually. One day a while back I just had the realization that oil could be the equivalent of the blood of the earth....and those greedy humans are sucking all the blood right out of mother earth.

Seriously though, it probably did serve some type of function that we may or may not even be able to comprehend. It could also just have been a simple function such as insulating the surface of the earth from the molten core...who knows?

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Yes, I heard a lot about that book (HAARP) but have never read it. I've heard others say good things about it too.

Carla, there is certainly a lot more going on than chemtrails but these are the most visible (at least in some ways and) so we're hopeful people will see them and start waking up.

Of course, the unfortunately thing is that the idea that they are being purposefully poisoned is so far removed from most people's paradyme that they'll think you're crazy before they'll ever even look into it for themselves. This is a shame.

It's very sad to see all of this going and people being so unresponsive to it.


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#6683 04/03/06 12:08 AM
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Yes, I heard a lot about that book (HAARP) but have never read it. I've heard others say good things about it too.

Carla, there is certainly a lot more going on than chemtrails but these are the most visible (at least in some ways and) so we're hopeful people will see them and start waking up.

Of course, the unfortunately thing is that the idea that they are being purposefully poisoned is so far removed from most people's paradyme that they'll think you're crazy before they'll ever even look into it for themselves. This is a shame.

It's very sad to see all of this going and people being so unresponsive to it.

There is nothing, and I mean nothing, that we can do to "save" this planet. Only the direct intervention of God Himself can fix it now.


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You're probably right, although I'll still do what I can.


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I definitely have found out that I feel so much better in the warmer weather.

Living in New England, the weather has been up & down. When it is warm outdoors, I am happy & I just feel so much better. In the colder weather, I am literally sitting by a space heater and I have chills and a low-grade fever many of the times. I often felt how I wish that we could move to a warmer climate.

I am counting down the days until the warmer weather is here to stay. In the meantime, I am just trying to get myself well again.

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I guess I need to start on another topic (in addition to all my others <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />) that make me seem weird to everyone! You're right though, people don't want to know about these things, they feel helpless to do anything about them. I live in an area that has a lot of cotton fields and "they" spray defoliants (sp) that makes most everyone ill for a while from cold symptoms to sinus infections to worst and everyone just compains to each other and suffers through.

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I have heard that the fungicides used on cotton contain mercury. I don't know if this is true, but that would surely make people sick as well.

I'm bummed that people feel helpless, because that's exactly what the bad guys want people to feel.

The fact is, people have so much power if they get together and coordinate their efforts that the bad guys have to keep what they are doing secret. They have to continue huge media propaganda campaigns just to keep people feeling helpless in order to protect the horrific things they are doing.

We live in amazing times.

When this is over, I picture us telling stories of these times to people who live in peace and seeing the people amazed and doubtful that we're even telling the truth.

The will say, "How on earth could all this bad stuff be going right in front of everyone's eyes on and no one did anything about it?"


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I admire your optimism Russ. You obviously have a lot less mercury in your system than me.



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