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One needs to check this site out and read it all!
Or print it all out if one can.
We know that the world is computer savy now and the technology exist's to fulfill prophecy on recording everybody on this planet.
But what we don't know is in who's hands besides the Antichrist of course this technology will fall into.
And then I read this take on the Mark Of The Beast.
One that is placed on the arms and heads of their followers and I read that in the Greek it could be translated as arm not just hand.
Does this image contain the mark of the beast?
A badge of submission.
Walid Shobat thinks so he thinks that this mark that John wrote down the writing looks alot like this in the Greek script.
He explains how it could say that.
That maybe that's what John saw/ meant as a warning to us.
And how all the prophecy fits.
Wow! Big Wow!

http://discerningthetimes.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Gods-War-on-Terror-Walid-Shoebat.pdf

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Here's Chuck Missler on the Mark of the Beast 666

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka5v0REv8Us

Arabic letters?
Have we have misinterperated what the Mark could mean?
Could it possibly be?
Maybe we should take a step back and look at it again.
It's starting to look like it makes more sense to me.
It seems to Perry Stone too.

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Here is Walid Shoebat on the subject.

Walid Shoebat - Mark of the Beast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtquNNEO7Fw

Zola Levitt and Walid Shoebat - The Mark of the Beast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uNof7CiowE

The Truth About Barack Hussein Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qXuDBpC6jA&feature=related

What is the truth??

With the changes going on in Europe and the standoff from Iran right now with possible Nukes.
Now is the time to think about these things as he believe the 12th Iman is coming soon and he may be right.
Something is coming soon?
We know the Prophecy of Ezekial 38 will come to pass and like no time like now, is that possible.

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Most likely alot of Evolutionists thinks this is not for reals but some may be listening up and saying maybe..
Just maybe there is something to all of this after all.
And..
It's not just in Iran who is waiting for the Mahdi it's the other nations of the Islamic world as well.

It's the opposite.
They send their son's to die for their god.
But our God sent his Son to die for us!
He's our Salvation.

The earlier written Hebrew Greek Bible and the Later written Koran, it's the opposite.
Bible prophecy and then Islamic Prophecy tell's us what will come about in the later days.
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Both should be read to see the paralles.

The God who knows the future controls the future and the Bible speaks of a future war by God himself on terror.
I believe the Mahdi will come and declare himself God and Isa will come and declare himself Jesus.
Except the Mahdi is as described the similarites throughout the pages of the Bible...
Too... Uncanny

Perry Stone - Islams Mahdi The AntiChrist - 1of 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mJP9L0a8Hg

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Even Unbelievers should read the paralles in this.
Because they even know something is coming too.
Things have changed and something is up.
Perry Stone - Islams Mahdi TheAntiChrist - 2 of 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yhBLVDMM-E&feature=related

Perry Stone - Islams Mahdi TheAntiChrist - 3 of 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCx7Acrk0oc&feature=related

Perry Stone - Islams Mahdi The AntiChrist - 4 of 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFupe9hPUtY&feature=related

Perry Stone - Islams Mahdi The AntiChrist - 5 of 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo2MbwZMwaE&feature=related

Perry Stone - Islams Mahdi The AntiChrist - 6 of 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnHDU64QC_U&feature=related

Perry Stone - Is Obama The Antichrist? - Part 7 of 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSU60RaWMNI&feature=related


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We know this to be true the lineing up just like Ezekiel 38 say's so.
Shoebat: Middle East is preparing to fight Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVKS4aQ3_TY&feature=related

But on what the mark of the beast may possible be it looks like it!
The youtube links and the written words one above explain it all.
We see it coming soon as we know Iran is getting ready to bring in what they call the new world..
Their God.
So that is the other take on what the mark John wrote means.
Interesting indeed!
President Bush was right.
They hate our freedom hear that freedom lovers out there...
the word is submit!
The Mark means submit too!
Hmmmmm......
It changes my thoughts on this from the other thread what it possible could be.
It could be this!

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Hello Lynn,

I scrolled back to see what exactly 'thread' you are referring to, "Will You Take the Mark?" Russ's thread on 7/16/2009. There is some good info there. This one is more about the Middle East and an interview with Pat Robinson on the 700 Club. It's not really about the 'mark of the beast'...nonetheless,

'Just briefly, I am going to attach a 'brief explanation' from Pastor and Bible Teacher, John MacArthur....but first this is what Matthew Henry's Commentary has to say regarding the Mark of the Beast. Revelation 13:18

Revelation 13:18 "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." (KJV) [666]

'We have here the number of the beast, given in such a manner as shows the infinite wisdom of God. Whether this be the number of the errors and heresies that are contained in popery, or rather, as others, the number of the years from its rise to its fall, is NOT certain.

The most admired dissertaion on this intricate subject is that of Dr. Potter, where the curious may find sufficient entertainment. It seems to me to be one of those seasons which God has reserved in his own power; only this we know, God has written Mene Tekel upon all his enemies; He has numbered their days, and they shall be finished, but his own kingdom shall endure for ever.' --
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-Pastor John MacArthur's youtube comments:



Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
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Hi My Sweet Friend, (((( Smiles ))))

Yes, lots of interesting good info there but after reading the writtings of Walid Shoebat and reading another book recently by Kamal Saleem " The Blood Of The Lambs " and that the 666 can be 616 also and that also the marks itself on it could reflect what Mr Walid is talking about or the Chuck Missler video.
Prophecy also can have multifulfillments of course but in light of what's taking place in the world right now.
I wanted to highlite another thread on the subject an interesting subject of course.
Turn off the music here if need to but also this take on it..

DISCOVERING THE BEAST, 666 OR 616?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzZwogRMrM

It's not in the who's hands this technology is in of now of course but in the who's hands this techology will fall into in the last days.
Need to watch your video.
Thanks!


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Good Heavens! Did you even take the time to read all that trash about this http youtube address you gave??

The first person said he is Arabic and "all this number translator to English are false."

I think you hit on a bad website, Lynn. If you want to convince Christians, then give biblical websites, of godly information. This post had a lot of hate and cursing remarks.

If you took time to listen to John MacArthur's Video, then you can see/hear that NOBODY knows these answers, except the Lord.
We are down here to 'win souls for Christ'.(Proverbs 11:30)

Lynn, I seriously do not believe you are reading good material, no offense. As Solomon penned, "There is nothing new under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9-10


Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
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Hi Abishag, ((((( Smiles ))))

You are correct didn't watch the whole thing, sorry.
But it has nothing to do with Mr Shoebat but need to find a better site video on the 666 616 thing.
Don't have the time now made a boo boo.
People make mistakes.
But..

Mr Shoebat was on the 700 club, Jewish Voice Ministries, It's Supernatural and other ministries as well on TV.
I have been reading his book and it's not: Is Jesus Christ returning to earth to wage war against Islamic Nations who treat Jesus harshly?" That statement is totally UNBIBLICAL.

It's about the countries written about in the Bible that God is coming against for attacking Israel and for the persecuting of Christians God's people are Islamic countries that are mentioned.
That's what he is writing about.
And about when the gathering back to Christ will be.
That is debatable as well and there will be tribulations.
Mr Shoebat is a former EX-Muslim terrorist that has studied the Koran and also has studied the Bible and saw it's truth and is now a Christian.
He is well versed in both.
Also Joel Richardson is the person he wrote the Book God's war on terror with.
His book is concerning Islam, Prophecy and the Bible.
That's his focus you need to read the book to get the total picture on it.
It's an interesting book for sure.

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The Health Care Chip How Interesting..

Perry Stone - Is America Setting Up The Mark Of The Beast System. (FULL)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BeZkUsxNlo&feature=related

Even in watching that other DISCOVERING THE BEAST, 666 OR 616? video above..
and Perry Stone also talks about that issue above and it is translated 666 but it's not just that..
But even in that video that person admitted that what Walid Shoebat said was there was there.
It read in the name of: Allah.
So there can be multifulfillments of the Beast system.
And it can both be true!
And right.

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666 or 616 is a translation as it is written in Greek.
And the orginal in Greek also as (chloros) as we know Chlorophyll Greek green for pale horse.

Irvin Baxter Lesson 4 - The Four Horseman from revelation-6 part 5 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGa32aMegFE

Allah/Islam is the beast. 666 = "in the name of Allah". Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gspeig7eDZs&feature=player_detailpage

Will that be a big part of the mark of the beast?
It could.


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