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. But it's not meant to be a one way street thing. It's meant to work in a situation where everyone is caring and supporting the other.

Exactly my point. If everyone has that same love and caring in their heart, then even if they fall down at times - which they will - forgiveness will be easy for the offended party. But the scope of gross selfishness is so great that only a fool would try to live up to Christ's example.

He had himself put up on a cross so that YOU wouldn't have to, Demi, and same for all who call themselves Christians. It is wrong to try to re-do what Christ already did for all of you.

Animals feel pain & suffering just as we do, and they value their lives as much as we value ours.