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Sorry JK I wasn't aiming the low dose comment at you. You are taking the appropriate doses in Cutler's book. In fact, I think you are probably taking some of the highest doses I have seen and I really do commend you for that. At least you are trying... I see people literally taking 5mg of DMSA and 1mg of ALA and they might as well be doing nothing in my opinion.
There is no way those tiny doses are doing anything to get mercury out. Most multi-vitamins have more ALA in 1 pill than what these people are taking on an entire week's worth of ALA at 1mg. People taking ALA outside of Cutler's protocol are not having these severe reactions. In fact most things online about ALA are all very positive. I really do not know what to think any more.
I have to consider some sort of placebo effect(once again not aiming this comment at you JK). I really think that people have become so scared of these chelators they start to sit there and think about everything they are feeling. haha I was guilty of this when I first started back in 2008 because of what was written on that stupid yahoo group. The members of frequent dose chelation yahoo group are scaring people and now I think they tell people to start at like 5mg of DMSA. I've seen posters write that even those small doses "crashed their adrenals". What?! I really just don't know what to think anymore...If what these people say is true, then what the heck is going on?
If I were rich I'd fund a double blind study on all of this stuff and really see what Dr. Cutler's protocol is doing to get metals out. I'd have several groups of people- 1 group taking large doses of DMSA (but told they were taking low doses) and 1 group taking small doses of DMSA (but told they were taking high doses) and see what their reactions and metal excretions were. I know there would be placebo effects in both of these groups.
At times the rashes are unbearable, but I do stick with it. The rashes are more like hives though because they come and go very quickly and leave no marks. Taking molybdenum, histidine and pantethine seem to really calm down the hive outbreaks so I will continue on these supplements. It very well may be a sulfur issue and DMPS may not help me here. lol
I can identify with the increased anxiety, panic attacks. Any chelation makes this happen with me too. In fact my husband was saying the other day that he noticed I've been keyed up ever since starting again. I think it's a side effect we might have to deal with unfortunately. I don't know. I suppose it depends on how severe the symptoms are like JK said.
When conspiracies unwind, will you slam shut or free your mind or stay hypnotized.
~Muse
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