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Ya, I forgot to drink...are you serious?  When I chelate I am loaded up on fluids and antioxidants...I pee constantly. Everyone responds differently; just because DMSA is hassle-free for some doesn't mean it is for all. As far as DMPS being 10x more expensive...it's also anywhere from 10-20 times more effective which in actuality would make it cheaper overall. But most importantly is its preference for inorganic mercury over other metals. If you have high metals beyond mercury it might takes months of DMSA before the mercury starts coming out. We've all seen people using DMSA for years without results. I don't see why you are so opposed to DMPS when plenty of people are having great results with it and even Cutler recommends it. DMSA has lots of issues as well, with many docs refusing to use it. Mercola for example points out that: "Since succinic acid is used in the citric acid cycle inside the cell, DMSA has been suspected for displacing mercury towards the inside of the cell86 after binding mercury somewhere on its way from the intestine to the succinic acid deficient cell. " http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htmI've seen other doctors express these same concerns. Regardless, DMSA and DMPS both have downsides and risks, there is no prefect chelator. All we can do is see what makes us well. People using DMSA and not getting better for 5+ years tells me something is seriously wrong here. I feel this is kind of a pointless debate because even an amazingly safe drug or herb for that matter can cause problems in certain people- all one can do is adapt and find something else if it is causing problems. "Additionally, someone mentioned DMPS causing kidney pain which is sort of funny because that's one of the prime complaints of DMSA and I've experienced it myself."
It is important to take DMSA on an empty stomach and with at least 8 ounces of water. It is important to stay properly hydrated when using DMSA.
Even if I could get DMPS, in addition to safety concerns the cost would be another reason not to use it. DMSA is expensive enough at around $1 each for a 100 mg capsule. Is a dose of DMPS something like $10? It is easy enough to spend $1,000 on DMSA for a year. I can't imagine spending $10K for DMPS.
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