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If someone has chronic mercury poisoning, how long after removal would it be safe to have a baby?
This has been on my mind lately. I don't ever plan to get pregnant as with my anxiety disorder it would be too much to cope with. At one time I considered it, but now I know about the poisons in vaccines and in food, and that I am toxic, there's no way I would be up to the challenge, mentally, of looking after a child. But, there is no 100% way of preventing pregnancy if one is in a relationship, so it could happen any time. I'm not in a relationship now, but I could be in the future.
What are the thoughts of other women of fertile years here?
As I am 30 now and a vegetarian, would it be better to be sterilized than risk having a baby? I don't want to be sterilized, but I am not sure what to do for the best. I don't want to be single for the next 20 years.
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I am 33 and a mom of two. I had both children with amalgams in my mouth as I did not know any better. I would not get sterilized! Things can change tremendously in life. Not to mention sterilization sets you up for a host of other health issues. See Biker chics website on that issue.
Once you are detoxed from metals, your anxiety may go away or be very mild. I can tell you that even though I had fillings while pregnant and am probably pretty toxic, somehow my children came out wonderful. So don't feel that you can never have any, should you choose too.
Meantime, use precautions not to get pregnant until you should decide otherwise. You can probably be testing for metal levels when you get to that point and see if they are low enough and you feel well enough. As far as vaccines... Just claim a religious exemption for you children and will not be vaccinated. Give them bottled water etc. It can be done in this crazy world! Keep your chin up!
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Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Right now, I am so scared of getting pregnant that I am "almost" put off sex completely. On the plus side, my fertility is so low at the moment that it is unlikely I could get pregnant (especially if my problem is due to PCOS and not toxicity), so if a barrier method failed, I guess the chances of me getting pregnant that month would be pretty small.
That is a good point about our feelings changing. In 10 years time I may not be as phobic about things as I am now. But it is a problem for me as I am so medically phobic the only contraception I could face is the male condom. I am scared of getting toxic shock syndrome from the sponges etc and don't want the hormonal pills.
I do hope my anxieties go somewhat when I have the fillings out, but if improvement is slower for vegetarians, it might be a long time. But the phobias intrude into almost every part of my life and it's been this way since I was 10 years old. It's terrible. I wish I could be like other women and people and not have so many phobias.
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I do know what you mean. Those other methods of birth control are not healthy. And I hear you with the anxiety and fears. I suffer from a lot of that too. I do hope that gets better for you. Mainly, stay informed and in contact with others in your situation helps. Basically, the condom and abstinance are about it. There is the old fashioned calendar method but you have to be pretty predictable and regular and it's only 60% effective.
Try to concentrate on your own recover at this point. The rest will fall into place after.
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Thanks MMM. It's just something that has been worrying me lately, especially as I kind of like someone. I agree with you that the other contraceptives are not particularly good. I know some couples who use the condom, so some long-term/married partners do use it as their preferred method. I've looked into the femidom, but don't like the sound of it. The male one is easier and statistically more effective.
I'm sorry you get anxiety aswell. I hope you get recovery too. I go through phrases when it's worse than others. This week I feel extra emotional, depressed and nervous than usual, but I have been cutting down on the alginate to one dose a day. I think I had better get it up to at least 2 again. I woke up lots last night with pins and needles.
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Purely from a health perspective, a sterilization, both male and female, is grossly unnatural. It cuts off the normal flow of "chi" - and then you do have problems!
Don't jump the gun. As someone else suggested here, just recover your own health, and you will be surprised how things just fall into place for you. "When God closes a door, he opens a window, etc. etc"
Animals feel pain & suffering just as we do, and they value their lives as much as we value ours.
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The problem is it could be years before I am recovered, if ever. I don't want to hold off from what could be a good relationship in the meantime.
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At this point, you need to focus on getting healthy. You may not feel that sex should be saved for marriage, but anyone worth sharing your life with should be willing to wait for that, whether it is because of God's plan or because of your need to get yourself healthy. It may seem like a long time until you will be in good health, but everything seems that way when you are in the middle of the crisis.
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I do believe in saving sex for marriage and as I am not engaged I am not getting married any time soon. However, I might not be recovered for years and I don't want to hold back from involvement with someone because I am waiting to get better. I might never meet someone else I feel the same way about. I think I could handle a relationship and on an emotional level, a suportive relatiionship would help my recovery. I need love in my life. Others don't.
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There is no perfect time (in my opinion) to have a baby, only somewhat less suitable or more suitable times. If a woman waits until her health is perfect or her personal situation is perfect, she may as well join a convent now.
I am not saying anyone should have a baby with an unsuitable man or anything like that (!!!) - only that the ol' clock is ticking. Having a baby is never a disaster, though it is certainly presented that way by the Planned Parenthood bunch.
Animals feel pain & suffering just as we do, and they value their lives as much as we value ours.
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It certainly is. Babies are seen as burdens these days.
I don't ever want a baby because I simply don't think I will ever be able to cope with one. I'm not holding out for a miracle cure once my amalgams are removed (which won't be completely until the end of the year), I'm just hoping for improvement.
I appreciate everyone's imput. It's made me feel somewhat better about the whole thing. I was never keen on the idea of sterilization and it's better not to make rash decisions while I am still toxic. By the time I get to being married, if ever, I may feel a lot less anxious about things.
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The fact that you recognize your anxiety means you are on your way! I predict you will be detoxified, married & breastfeeding a whole litter before you know it.
Animals feel pain & suffering just as we do, and they value their lives as much as we value ours.
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Lol, don't say that! I don't want one baby let alone a brood! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I may have to consider sterilization as just the thought of being pregnant gives me a panic attack.
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I just read that 1-2 in every 100,000 women die from sterilization. That's quite a high number, all things considered. Others can get organ damage or infection. Maybe it's better to risk pregnancy after all, lol.
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Also, I often wonder about the validity of all the hype about older mothers and childbirth etc. It's a natural body function and it's well known that today doctors do way too many c-sections. I think that if I ever did have a baby, I would go to a birthing centre where the emphasis is on as natural as possible but have people on hand if need be. I have limited mobility in one hip, but my ob-gyn said it shouldn't be a problem to childbirth and she's never known a woman to experience problems from it. Maybe it's better for women to have babies in their 20's, but I've known women to have babies in their late 30's and even 40's and had no problems. A friend's sister had a Down's baby at 25.
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I had a baby, healthy & fine, shortly before my 40th b. day.
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Only some people see babies asd burdens. Usually those who center their lives on "career and money" as a means of defining success. I have never felt my kids were burdens. They have made my life worth living. I suffered panic attacks from the onset of my first pregnancy. I took medication for them while my first child was a baby. This kept me from getting them at all and I was calm enough to take care of her. I know the drugs are bad, but the mercury is worse. And if this allowed me to take care of my child..it is what i had to do. Women who are not toxic and healthy have panic/anxiety and post partum depression. None of us knows what we'll get. I do believe the anxiety/panic is from my amalgams. Should you ever decide to have a baby...it will change your life for the better. I said I was never having kids. Well, I see how that worked. I must say that you have one advantage! You can regain your health first. It is very hard to have two children to care for while being so sick.
OH..I can tell you with tubal ligation..that is the reason my mother lost her uterus and one ovary. Her other ovary doesn't work right now and has adhered to her intestine creating a host of other problems. Should you get in a relationship....(sorry guys) condoms are best bet. No hormones, no side effects, no baby. Keep your chin up! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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A friend of mine had to have a hysterectomy at 23 and I wonder if it was the sterilization that played a part. But she also had an abortion at a young age, and that might have caused problems also.
I think I'm just going to take the view that if I do get married and get pregnant that it's meant to be, but I don't think I will ever plan a pregnancy. That might make me cold in the eyes of some people, and I have had a lot of stick for not wanting kids (being conservative Christian) but for me I think it is the responsible thing to do. I have suffered so much with anxiety and phobias that I have learnt to respect them and not to push myself.
But if I did get pregnant, I would try to be the best mother possible. I would like to adopt an older child at some point though, about 8 or 9, as it's very hard for them to get homes. But I'm not going to deliberately put myself in situations that I don't think I can cope with or am not ready for.
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Demi. don't count yourself out of the baby picture yet. It is amazing what a difference a year can make and, as they say, "It's always darkest before the dawn." I've had four miscarriages, but I have seven healthy children, and my youngest was born when I was 42.
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Hi Dallas. Sorry about your miscarriages. That must have been tough.
I don't think my phobias will be gone in a year as it will be at least 9 months before I am free of amalgam and then I have to detox, which we keep being told is harder for vegetarians. If they can be better in 5 years, that is something <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
My main concern is how to not get pregnant.
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But you are so right about things seeming darkest before dawn. I often look back on my life and wonder why was I ever worried by this or that. At the time, though, they were great anxieties. I think, most importantly, I will need a strong husband, if that's possible. Support can make all the difference to how we cope with something.
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I had 4 crowns put in/root canals from a shady dentist who did not do enough to protect me from the merc that got released. That year I gained 70 pounds. And I had PCOS with every single symptom EXCEPT no cysts showed up!
After 6 years infertility, I finally conceived a wonderful child, who developed autism at 2 years. Treating him as if it's merc poisoning, he is now almost recovered.
And I just got my amalgams out and I feel FANTASTIC! Trying for number two after we detox me.
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That's great <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I'm hoping to finally get my fillings sorted over the summer. Things are just really hectic here right now!
I haven't had a period now for coming on two years. It will be interesting to see what happens afterwards <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Congratulations KM!!! Very good to hear.
If you've had that kind of success with your autistic child, let me know if you want to share your detox programs with us and I'll publish it around the web in various places for all to see. There are so many children and parents who suffer through autism and have no idea what to do. I'd love to get the word out about this as much as possible from people who've been there and conquered it.
Many thanks and let us know.
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