Originally Posted by JK98
Huh? Vegetarian especially tend to be copper deficient. I am a vegetarian and have read several articles about this. I don't take a multivitamin. I take separate supplements. I am males and therefore do not use birth control pills. Many multivitamins have no copper or 1 mg or less.

I don't know where you're getting your information from but vegetarians tend to have copper overload. And vegetarians also have a higher chance of developing thyroid issues because of soy (and copper overload). Nuts, beans, seeds, soy, cocoa, and grains are all high in copper. As for multi's, the majority of multivitamins have copper and the dosage is usually 2mg.

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Why didn't you try taking large doses of iodine? For 2 months I took 50 mg a day of iodine. Now I cut it back to 25 mg. I think this helped solve my problem of below normal temperatures. Perhaps you might be selenium deficient. Selenium is important for converted T4 to the active T3, and mercury binds with selenium and makes it biologically unavailable. If you haven't already, perhaps you should try taking 50 mg a day of iodine, and 200 mcg a day of selenium.

Large doses of iodine didn't help. I did that for for a few months before getting my TSH levels checked, the numbers hardly changed. It actually made me feel worse, made my voice really horsey, and hard to swallow. I take a copper free multivitamin along with extra separate vitamins (selenium included).

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You might feel better since the zinc is helping fight infection.
You still haven't shown any proof of copper overload.

I can't show you proof. I just know what I've read and what my gut is telling me. If this diet is helping me, that's all that matters.

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Large milk intake, which results in huge calcium intake but little magnesium to balance it can result in bone loss and a loss of magnesium. Are you taking magnesium supllements or eating plenty of magnesium rich foods? Perhaps your fatigue might be due to magnesium deficiency? That would make sense.

I take magnesium and I also eat foods with magnesium. Pumpkin seeds, Broccoli, Spinach, white beans occasionally. Any other magnesium food I avoid because my symptoms get worse because of the high copper content. I was also taking a multi when I was on the vegetarian diet. I actually told my doctor that when I drank milk, my bones... hurt. I had joint pain. But when I stopped drinking milk, it would go away. Which everyone thought was weird since milk is suppose to be good for the bones! This correlates with copper overload. Milk exacerbates copper overload symptoms. One of them is... joint pain.

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Perhaps you were protein deficient? Many vegetarian are iron deficient.

That's certainly a possibility but I'll never know. That was a few years ago. All I know is ever since I went on that diet, it's been non stop symptom after symptom. I've tried different diets. Dairy free. Soy free. Gluten free. Anti-inflammatory. They all seemed to help but I still displayed light symptoms. That's when I came across copper overload. And read that soy is high in copper. Gluten. High calcium from milk can exacerbate copper. Chocolate (cocoa) is high in copper. My symptoms would always get worse around the holidays when I would have lots of fudge and cookies. Milk + Cocoa = bad combo. So it made sense why I felt better on those diets. They were a lot lower in copper, but still contained copper foods which is why my symptoms were continuing.

Originally Posted by Sean
I tried that symptoms to a T thing before and figured out so many things have the same symptoms

My name is Sean to!

Since the doctors refuse to help me, I've been through a lot of trial and error. While this was frustrating at first, it's been a learning experience. Because I do want to become a nutritionist (holistic doctor etc.) so while this sucks, it's a great learning experience. So I know there are similar conditions out there. But it's about looking at everything as a whole (when did all this start?) and that's what I'm doing.

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