There was more, of course
It is my own faith choice to reject evolution, because I believe the Bible reveals true information about the history of the earth that is fundamentally incompatible with evolution.
That's one approach. It is taken by Christians who see origins as insignificant. It is not taken by creationists - or anyone else - who takes the time to actually investigate.
This is the very same kind of "faith" evolutionists themselves possess: "I believe it's so because I believe it's so - end of story."
But rejecting 2 + 2 = 871 need not be a matter of faith. Things that are untrue can be rejected on other grounds, and evolutionism is clearly and unambiguously untrue. There have been many atheistic evolutionists who took the time to actually look at the cock-eyed junk for what it is, and guess what? Go on guess. They ain't atheistic evolutionists any more.
Know something else? Nowhere in scripture is there a requirement for anyone to have faith in order to know God exists - quite the opposite. Faith is required for
salvation. Satan knows God exists, doesn't he? Cain knew. Pharoah knew. Balaam knew.
The premise is totally bogus.
For a person to claim to be knowledgeable, and claim faith is somehow required to reject a religion that demands more blind faith than any other, bar none ...is logically absurd. Even to imply it, as we have seen in this case, is irrational.
Scriptures regarding the matter are well known. Evidence is all around and the scoffers are willfully ignorant. Why would anyone want you thinking otherwise?
There's a link to still more on down the page.
http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2009/10/nature-of-faith.htmlIt seems to me that Jesus does not want us relying on evidence.
What? What!!!
'Nuf said. This mole wants to comfort the enemy by saying the Christian's faith is just as lame as their own.
He does not want us to rely on the evidences that He graciously supplies but instead He wants us to have confidence in His voice alone. And from his reaction to the Pharisees and Sadducees, it would appear that any scoffer's demand for evidence will be rebuffed. If they will not believe Moses and the prophets (i.e. the Word of God), no amount of miracles will convince them.
Know what? The fulfillment of what Moses and the prophets predicted
is evidence. Fer cryin' out loud, who can this propaganda be targeting?
As a point of application, I think modern creationists would be much better served if we stopped coddling their every doubt and fear with new "evidence for creation" and instead helped to wean them off evidence altogether.
Ha ha - somehow I don't think providing evidence which would lead people to understand truth was ever on the agenda - do you?
Of course that's not all. How could he stop without slandering honest people?
After many years in this debate, I've come to the uncomfortable conclusion that we creationists have made an idol of our own arguments.
Insisting the 2 + 2 = 4 , insisting that the law of noncontradiction always applies - this is not idolatry. True is true and false is false; the two are mutually exclusive.
Not terribly original either - he's just parroting another famous mole.
Also relevant:
http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2009/11/nature-of-idolatry.htmlLet's just look at the most basic point of all: When Adam and Eve sinned, why didn't God just wipe them out and start over again?
Scoffers just love second-guessing God, don't they?
Why curse the creation then become a part of it and suffer a humiliating death in order to fix it? How does that make any sense? It doesn't.
Uh-huh - not to some people. Where do we commonly see such arrogance, hmmm?
It is the foolishness of God, and it is wiser than any human wisdom. How do I know? I know by faith.
Double-talking twisting of scripture. Wonder who inspired that... - not!
Origins discussions do tend toward Genesis quite a bit, and we all know who was the first to twist God's words.
I greatly fear that our faith in Christ has been replaced with an idolatry of apologetics.
We are to always be prepared to give what? C'mon, you remember...
The clown's whole gist is that we are (or should be) just what the liars all say we are: a bunch of idiots blindly believing whatever we want to believe - in other words, just like themselves.
Then again, maybe I'm mistaken?
I'M A CREATIONIST! reaffirms my doctrinal commitments so I can't be written off as an evolutionist in disguise or some other nonsense like that.
Oops! I should've read further, shouldn't I?
One especially amusing person suggested that I was stupid, possibly bipolar, or just a liar (scroll down here to Lester10's post). So much for that whole "love your enemies" thing.
Yep - still tryin' to take bogus pokes at Christians. I guess if someone lies through their teeth for all the world to see, the "loving" response is to just shut up and let it go...
I'm not so "charitable" these days as to write it off as possible stupidity when people go far beyond the bounds of what can be accomplished with innate stupidity. Nobody believes it for an instant - nobody on either side.
I do not pretend to think it's stupidity; that would be highly inconsistent with the facts available, and impossible even in theory - like I say, there are limits to what can be accomplished naturally; some thing take deliberate effort. Anyone claiming 2 + 2 = anything other than 4 , for example, is not just
naturally stupid.
What an Evolander!
No, Todd, you ain't foolin' nobody. It would be wise to just give up on the project, but you've demonstrated fairly well your relationship vs. wisdom. I expect to see plenty more - that is, if I take the time to look.
