Does anyone have problems of moisture that go up, after swallowing medical products or kinds of food, that occured after removal mercury fillings withqwithout ruber dam on the mouth? do you know what can help this problem? Does anybody knows why poeple have to wait 3 months after the removal before taking ALA?

I'm not sure what the problem is that you're describing. Could you explain a little more.

I don't know that it's necessary to wait 3 months before taking ALA, but I would certainly start with DMSA and ALA together, both at 25mg (a low dose).

It is necessary to wait 3 months after amalgams have been removed before starting ALA because Andy Cutler has found it takes about that long before blood levels of mercury are reduced enough.

Using ALA too early when blood levels are still high, increases the risk of more mercury being carried into the brain, because it crosses the blood brain barrier. It would be better to either wait out that 3 months or use DMSA.

DMSA is good at reducing blood levels of mercury. It makes detoxing extracellular mercury much more efficient than if you left the body to do it by itself (in my personal experience anyway). In fact, DMSA alone was chelating much more than I had expected and I continued using it for a long time, because that alone was causing enough detox symptoms to let me know that it was still working!

Though some who maybe reactive to DMSA itself, or find it too expensive, do not have to use it. They can simply wait it out for 3 months and then use ALA at the appropriate time on its own.

DMSA chelates extracellular mercury (mercury on the outside of cells), but it is not essential. ALA chelates intracellular mercury (mercury on the inside) and IS essential (because it chelates the organs/brain). This is what I learned from Cutler.

They can be used together for those who find DMSA helps with the symptoms of mercury and the symptoms created from using ALA (which is very powerful). Or ALA can simply be used alone.

Russ, have you tried DMPS, DMSA .. what worked better for you?

Is ALA a good chelatin agent?

OK, thanks for the info Bex. I don't think I've heard this before.

I have tried DMPS injections (3 times) and oral DMSA.

DMPS injections caused HORRIBLE symptoms which is why we (my friend Laura and I) stopped. They followed the I.V. immediately with 50 grams of vitamin C which helped the symptoms tremendously for several hours, but they progressively got worse.

I have been taking oral DMSA for months now and have not had any detox symptoms from it. In fact, it makes me feel a little better. Of course, this is not the norm, but it certainly works well for me.

hello,

i tried DMPS because professor cutler said you can take it every 8 hours and with this you can sleep at night.

DMSA is difficult because you take it evry 4 hozrs.

how much Dmsa you taking without detox symptoms? You hav taken it for months? how can you cope with the lack of sleep?

Hi..I meant that sometimes after I removed one or more of my amalgams I developed symptoms of mucous after I take medical supplements and some kinds of food, it seems like allergy and maybe it's the mercury vapour, I don't know.

Bex- "Using ALA too early when blood levels are still high, increases the risk of more mercury being carried into the brain, because it crosses the blood brain barrier"- I just have to understand - why when you chelate with ALA mercury can carried into the brain? Mercury also moves inside the body when you chelate?

Hi desperatewoman,

If the blood is still high in mercury (which is usually the first 3 months following amalgam removal and/or other recent mercury exposure), taking a brain chelating agent like ALA during that time is highly risky. It means the brain chelating agent will have more chance of grabbing the free floating blood mercury on its way into the brain. This is because ALA can cross the blood brain barrier, which is what you want when you're ready to get mercury OUT of the brain. But it's not so great if you have high blood levels of mercury and and it's pulling more of it INTO the brain.

The key is to reduce blood/body levels first, so that when you use a brain chelating agent, you have a clearer blood stream. Then the brain chelator can go into the brain without taking unnecessary amounts of mercury with it.

A clearer blood stream, means the brain chelator (e.g. ALA) can go into the brain, grab mercury that's already in there and make it easier for it to come out!

This is how I understand it. Someone else may have a much better understanding and way of explaining it that me.

This is what I've been doing over the past several months. I started with DMSA - small doses, then added in ALA - small doses.

Then I increased them both over time.

I'm currently up to 100mg of DMSA and 25mg of ALA (still a low dose for ALA).

how cope with lack of sleep russ?

I'd assume that Russ has been doing it on and off during that time. I think 2 weeks is about the longest recommended for ALA chelation if I recall correctly. I couldn't handle that. I had enough problems doing just DMSA alone for an entire week.

Most people on this protocol seem to do about 3 days on and then 3 days or so as a break and just repeat that cycle.

I found that shortening the round to about 3 days or so and lessening the dose made things so much easier.

I use GABA, Melatonin, Calcium, and tryptophan. They help me get to sleep but unfortunately, mercury (from chemtrails) makes it very difficult to have deep sleep cycles. As a result, my heart is suffering.

Still looking for solutions to this problem myself.

because i read professor cutler says take DMSA every 4 hours DAY and NIGHT and i believe for me it would be pretty hard to do taht for a long time without having problems with lack of sleep etc. you know. i have sleep problems even without doing chelation... Insomnia.. i believe it is a mercury sign..

Yeah I know, I find it difficult too.

But thankfully you only need do that for 3 days straight, then you can take a break - E.g. 3 days on, 3 days off (or more)and repeat the cycle until you're well. Some may extend their chelation rounds to a week on and a week off, but it depends on what is preferred/convenient. Some people may chelate for 3 days straight and may take a week off as a break. Some may just chelate on weekends.

3 days is long enough when you're chelating constantly every 4 hours. I don't tend to do longer rounds, unless I feel up to it. Some people may feel really good whilst chelating and may wish to keep going for longer. But the body needs a break inbetween rounds to recuperate/replenish mineral levels and broken sleep.

Yeah, mercury can indeed cause insomnia. I've suffered most of my life with difficulty sleeping. The candida diet has helped that alot though and the increase in protein foods and animal fats. Made a huge difference in my ability to sleep!

I have infact started to get more daylight than ever in my life before.
My improved health has given me better daytime functioning, that is for sure.



I now sleep for 6-14 hrs... depending.... either day or night...
14hrs is when i have pulled an all nighter + all dayer, (24hrs) or more... as i can do that again now... couldn't recently.... anyway... I get to see more of the day now, more "normal" circadian cycle than almost ever with me..

I'm also alot more happier (inside), generally...

One notices when this poison lifts away now and then....
Small steps, and before you know it..... woah... o...k...... i'm able do experience this again... and that again.... and it's good.....

I feel improvments... however slowly... when i first notices them, i realise theire "huge"....

I don't know... but can this mucus buildup be a candida flare from the new and extra mercury exposure?...... just a theory....

you still have fillings ole? There is a reason why the elite put this stuff in your mouth you need take all fillings out. THEY want you to have mercury in your mouth.

Does anybody know if heavy metals from water in a bath (I mean when you sit in a bath that contains water)absorb in the body as the chlorine? I ask because I try to find a filter for the tap in my bath and they told me that heavy metal are not really absorb throught a bath.

Magnesium malate has been a great help for me in reducing muscle ache. Many of the allergic symptoms people have are due to candida or parasite waste products. Doing some month long parasite cleases can help with this(antiparasite herbs such as wormwood, cloves, and black walnut also kill candida). Eating a low carb diet will also help.

I am chelating now using 200 mg ALA plus 66 mg DMSA every 3 hours for 3 day(2 night) rounds. I tried to increase the DMSA further and it gave me diahrrea. I am happy with the current dosage.

I suggest that people take both calcium and magnesium supplements, however I think that taking them in equal amounts might be a good idea(others suggest more than twice as much calcium as magnesium). Vitamin D and vitamin K supplements are
also a good idea to make sure calcium is properly utilized.

When chemtrails are sprayed in our area, I experience horrible muscle and joint aches.

I believe that this is due to my preexisting mercury toxicity (I probably never fully detoxed mercury) combining from the aluminum in the chemtrails causing swelling in the joints and muscle tissue.

I have found that Malic Acid has helped quite a bit. I'm still using it and still improving.

Malic acid chelates aluminum.

If they ever ban it, I will be stocking up.

Headaches!! I think it's due to something I took - ALA or another thing..Maybe it connects to ALA with high mercury level..If someone have a good advice to cope with this situation I will be thankful for that..

Russ- did you ever try also to fast with vegtable juice (carrot,cucumber..) or with water when you feel like that? I recommend it..

ALA will cause headaches, especially if it is taken in too high a dosage, or not taken on a reasonable shedule. If taken with DMSA, the side effects are much less. See if you can finish this chelation round. If not, then stop. Reduce the dosage next round. How much ALA are you taking? Are you taking it with DMSA?
How long are your chelation rounds?

I just took 2 tablets of ALA,20 mg each time,with 3-4 hours break between them, 3 months after removing 2 amalgam fillings with biological dentist, but sometime before tooking the ALA I tried a bath with hydrogen peroxide and after some days I felt better due to it, I also had negative symptoms so maybe it's the combination between them. I didn't really knew that it isn't so good to take ALA when the mercury levels can be high and maybe for some reasons the mercury levels were high. Maybe I will try the DMSA but just after I'll improve other problems..

By the way the headeches can be due to stopping ALA or DMSA tablets?

Yes. Symptoms can happen during rounds and/or between rounds. Some of my worst symptoms happen after I've stopped the round. Some of this may also be some redistribution symptoms that are unavoidable when you stop the round.

There could be more reasons. You maybe on too high a dose at this stage and need to reduce it. Or you may need to reduce more blood/body levels of mercury with DMSA alone for longer before trying ALA again. It may also be the fact that ALA does not suppress symptoms like DMSA does, so often people can find it harder. Using DMSA with ALA can make it easier.

Hard to say. I'd do what you have contemplated. Wait till things die down and try the DMSA alone and see what happens. Just reducing the dose can be helpful too. Sometimes it can also be that some people may need to take it even more often. Every 3 hours, or in some cases, even every 2 hours. I think this is due to those that metabolise it faster and need to take them even more often. So sometimes one has to adjust dose and/or timing too.

I have tried that and it helps a little - with a few symptoms - but does not make a huge difference.

I have found this: When they spray, the symptoms that I have come on very quickly. The symptoms that I get depend on what they are spraying as I have detected 4 different odors/tastes in the air associated with spraying:

Salty/metallic - Used to be the most common substance. Now, only usually sprayed during the daytime.

Harsh Chemical - This is a new addition that I've only begun tasting/smelling while spraying during the past 6 months or so. Normally sprayed after dark.

Pharmaceutical - Tastes like a sleeping pill and I have noticed that people get very tired/sleepy when I sense this (including me).

Sulfur - This is more subtle and has only mild symptoms associated with it.

This activity needs to be stopped.

Thanks for your responses..

By saying veg' juice I meant for mainly large amount of juice for few days, including those that help the liver function like carrot, brocoli..then the body has more energy to detox..