Originally Posted by Abishag

"The invisible things of him [God], from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead;..."Romans 1:20
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IF you try to rationalize God exhaustively, you will fail. There are mysteries about God that we will never understand in this life. How can the small and finite, limited to time and space, understand an infinite God! We should not think it strange that it is impossible to explain many mysteries in the realm of matter.

Who can explain why objects are always attracted to the center of the earth? Who can fathom the law of gravity? Newton discovered, it, but he could not explain it. Who can explain the miracle of reproduction?

...Thus many evidences and many arguments could be advanced to indicate there is a God. Yet the plain truth is this: God cannot be proved by mere rationalization. He cannot be contained in a tiny man-man test tube or confined to an algebraic formula. If God can be fully proved by the human mind, then He is no greater than the mind that proves Him.

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Billy Graham/ Evangelist ~

Prayer For The Day:
'Lord God Almighty, although my finite mind
cannot comprehend the magnitude of Your greatness,
I have felt Your presence in the quiet of my
heart and I am gladdened. Thank you, our Father, for sending
Your Son, Jesus, to redeem us from destruction.' prayer
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"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 cross
I am not pleased to say it, but it appears Billy Graham has come to a conclusion directly opposed to the scripture cited at the beginning of the post.

I cannot say the simple, obvious interpretation of "fully proved" is the one he intended; but one can indeed prove God exists.

"If God can be fully proved by the human mind, then He is no greater than the mind that proves Him." This is a statement worthy of an evobabbler. It may sound emotionally appealing, but it has no merit whatsoever. Can you fully prove your parents exist? Does this define them as the sum of your understanding? Of course not! This does not work for anything, even a rock. I can prove a rock exists, but doing so does not grant me full understanding of the rock, or in any way limit the properties of the rock.

Scripture is our only 100% reliable guide. Individuals are not infallible. Scripture says those who deny the existence of God are without excuse - it does not excuse them. Attempting to "reach" atheists by compromising with their doctrines is a recipe for failure. Neither reality nor truth are subject to negotiation.


Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth

"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm

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"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson