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And boys, leave the testosterone at home when it's discussion time.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I happen to like the display of testosterone. It is what made America great, and it's the lack of it that we see now in the vast majority, fiddling while the nation burns.

Animals feel pain & suffering just as we do, and they value their lives as much as we value ours.