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egans' words in his first chapter was the reason I wrote that Americans themselves could be majorly responsable for the ill-health and deaths. My impression of Americans in general is that they hesitate to take responsability for their actions, but blame others......as always; the convenient way. I guess my impression became that Russ's theory began to sound as such.....

One should always be careful not to jump to conclusions by generalising. The fact that Americans have a propensity for xenophobia shouldn't lessen the likelihood of Russ' theories. I think they're actually quite plausible, particularly given (again) the UN's violent, murderous behavior. That's not paranoia, that's just a simple fact.

Fact: the UN has a hand in the slaughtering of innocent men, women, and children. This cannot be debated, it cannot be refuted. Anyone who says that's not true is simply lying to themself. That's like telling me 2 plus 2 does not equal 4.

Fact: NATO is responsible for more acts of terrorism than any furtive gang of masked desperados in 3rd world countries (Al Qaida, et al). Before you throw "9-11" at me, please do the math. How many died during "9-11"? How many died during Vietnam, or in South America, or in Yugoslavia, or in .. or in .. or in .. ? I'm sorry, no band of Muslim fundamentalists can compete with the violence of NATO.

Fact: The U.S. government has been responsible for more bloodshed than Nazi Germany. Again, do the math. How many died during the Jewish hollocaust? Now count how many died during the holocaust of the Native Americans? To use Tom's format, let me leave for you a Hint: there are more Jews remaining alive today than Native Americans. And that's just one U.S. led hollocaust among many.

And despite all this, you think that the UN would deliberatley promote the use of mercury amalgam fillings for the purpose of population reduction incredulous paranoia!?! Well I'm sorry, I stand by my original statement. Instead of proving how it's true, please prove to me how it's NOT true. I'm afraid history speaks for itself on this one, boys and girls. I wouldn't put it past the UN to be up to any number of shady underhanded deeds, the aforementioned conspiracy theory among them.

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I think Russ has made some very hefty accusations as it's a normal thing to feel some level of TRUST in fellow human beings.

Is it? The same level of trust with all human beings? Even the ones who have a direct hand in murder and conquest? Look, authority should always be questioned to ensure intergrity, any authority that dislikes being questioned is making themselves appear suspicious. But you would simply ask me to "have faith" in mankind and my fellow human beings? Please pardon me for being blunt but, no thanks!

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Merely recommending some links (again the convenient way) was a disappointment to me as I am more than willing to listen to someones different view of things.

What were you hoping for, Anonymous Poster, an entire novel pasted into this forum? You're asking for evidence that is not as simple as answering in one or two sentances (nor paragraphs for that matter).

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And boys, leave the testosterone at home when it's discussion time....


There's a difference between a heated debate and a flame. I haven't read anything in this thread which would deserve your remark about "testosterone"; on the contrary, I've found it a very interesting and enlightening discussion. People are allowed to disagree. It's not like anyone was using profanity.