This has been a great discussion so far!

Firstly, I'd like to back up some of Russ' statements because I feel a few of you may have done them a bit of injustice (although, conversely, it's always good to see an opposing side of any argument).

An anonymous poster had said the following.



It's not simply a matter of labelling one's perceptions as American vs. European. Mind you, I'm saying this as someone who lives and considers himself a European, for what it's worth, and I still side with the very likely probability of the above conspiracy theory. I'll agree there exists a tendency towards xenophobia within the U.S. For example, following the tsunami in Southeast Asia, AMERICAN news reporters were routinely asking the locals who they were blaming for this. I was completely beside myself. Who is at fault for a natural disaster!?! Americans seem all too eager to point the blame on someone, indeed America's entire infrastructure is based on blaming others; massive profit is obtained through simply pointing the finger and one wonders if its very economy would crumble if they ceased this practice.

On the other hand, conspiracy theories do exist, and their presence is a global one, not subject to the U.S. only. I think it's a safer practice to consider any and all conspiracies before writing them off as absurd paranoia. People were burned at the stake for believing the world is round, today people are ostracised for believing amalgam fillings are poisonous (which, I think we all agree here, they are).

The trouble with Russ' theories is not his method of debate, in my opinion, but the theories themselves. They're difficult to prove in a few simple words, it costs expounding on volumes worth of information to even give one a glimmering hint of this subject. I don't know if the UN is truly plotting to reduce human population with amalgam fillings, but I have no reason to believe otherwise, particularly given their corrupted violent and bloodthirsty history. I think a better question is, instead of proving how the UN is deliberately promoting amalgam for the sake of reducing population, how about proving that they're NOT. You have some well stated rebuttals, Tom, but just as you said Russ did not provide any backing evidence (which I think he actually did), I didn't see you proving any of your own; where was YOUR evidence to the contrary beside listing suggestions on how to debate (which is a separate subject)? In short, there is no simple answer and if you're hoping for one hyperlink or one quote to prove how the UN may be plotting to reduce population with amalgam, you can expect to be sorely disappointed. I'm sure it's possible to provide backing evidence right here on this forum, but it would be the size of a 300+ page novel and if Russ or anyone else is going to go that far, well, heck! they might as well write a novel instead!

Conspiracies theories do exist and many of them are very real. I wouldn't say I believe but, rather, I know that the U.S. led a bloodthirsty tour through Yugoslavia in 1999 using WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, and it was done for monetary and territorial gain rather than the "humanitarian aid" it was claiming. And despite that I know this, I couldn't possibly begin to give you the evidence in one simple post (though I could certainly point you in the right direction if you wanted to unravel the dirty truth of it all).

I suppose what I'm getting at is, while I'm not saying I think Russ' theories are right, I'm definitely not saying they're wrong either. And when dealing with dirty terrorists like the United Nations, I think it's a far better practice to label them guilty until proven innocent, rather than the other way around.