Originally Posted by Bex
However, abortion differs from this in the respect it is premeditated/determined and directly performed by the hands of the abortionist. The act of abortion is horrific.
I agree that the act of abortion is horrific. We will have to disagree on whether the mother should try and save herself.

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What verses in the Bible support your position that people should never use birth control?
What verses in the Bible say that the only reason for sex is to make babies?


What verses in the bible indicate we should? Since this is something mankind created - is it backed up by the bible in anyway?
What verses in the Bible indicate that we should develop automobiles, ice cream, or heart surgery? Because the Bible doesn't say we should develop these things, was it wrong to develop them?

Aren't there specific requirements to be good stewards of what God has given us? How can we be good stewards of our financial assets if we continue to have children until we can no longer feed them?

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I already made myself clearer earlier in regards to the reason for sex. I think we at least agree on that part.
I agree that sex is partly for procreation. However, I didn't see you support that with Bible verses. Furthermore, you didn't provide Biblical support for your contention that we shouldn't prevent pregnancy while retaining sexual relations with our spouses.

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We do not agree on the birth control side of things obviously. However, this was not the subject of this thread and I'm doubtful if either of us would ever come to a resolution anyway.
Maybe not but exploring our reasons for our position will help in understanding each other.

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We all have the choice to rebel. Protection from pregnancy and STD"s/AIDS as one continues to have pre-marital sex is handing out a false sense of security/protection/freedom where one "may" manage to escape the consequences of their sin/actions, but in doing so, will likely never wake up to it or think twice. The person may indeed consider themselves "free" when sadly, spiritually they maybe dying!

To me, that is a far bigger disaster! And a spiritual one.
Then you would support the outlawing of all forms of contraception?
That way the people who choose to have sex outside of marriage can suffer the consequences of AIDS, HERPES and other STD's.

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Whilst God's plan for our lives and sex is so often scoffed and sneered at by a world who has more "realistic" solutions. The physical body and pleasures are to be preserved at all costs from interruption and consequences, whilst the soul is barely taken into consideration.
Whereas the salvation of the soul should be preserved at all costs?


A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke