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It is likely that the baby would also die in these cases. What would be the use in dying with the child?


I see it from your perspective and I'd have once possibly said the same. However, again what you're talking about is still murder.

Even if the "murder" is done in the hopes of saving one life. It is still the deliberate act of killing another. Dying is not a sin. Killing another is. Only God has the right to take life!

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My brother lives in a southern state where an abortion is nearly impossible to get. He says that the help with adoption and unwed mothers is very rare and discouraged by the local conservatives. His daughter became pregnant and all he heard from most of his church members was judgment about his lack of supervision and what a bad daughter he had. I had her come live with me until she had her son and he was adopted, with the help of our friends at the Life Center.


I'm very glad to hear that abortion is nearly impossible to get. Praise God! I'm not pro murder of a child at any stage of their life for whatever reason.

I think it is good to encourage mothers to bring up and take care of their own children and to try and discourage them from giving them up if possible.

However, there must also be support and options in place for the Mothers in desperate/dire circumstances and/or the Mothers who themselves maybe near enough to a child. That is disappointing to hear that there isn't.

I'm sorry to hear about the judgemental comments! That is shameful and there are people like this everywhere! But this is hardly the case with all Christians (fundamentalists included). Perhaps you ought to check out the missions/organisations around the world actively helping their fellow man.

It's a credit to you that you opened your doors to this young woman. Just as Christ would have done!

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The spirit of fear can be quite powerful.


Yes it can. And the spirit of lies and compromise is also.

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I was pointing out that if it is sin then it is sin. A man stealing a loaf of bread is still stealing. One of the reasons that farmers in Israel had to leave part of their crop in the fields was so that the poor could glean that food and not have to steal to stay alive. It prevented sinning out of need. Right clever, I think.


Yes that's right. But the knowledge, intent and situation is not ignored by an all-knowing God either.

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Yes it is but reality should be considered also. Purity should be emphasized but prevention needs to be included. We teach drivers the techniques to keep out of crashes but we also teach them how to use safety belts in case they fail to use the good techniques they were taught.

Not everyone will remain pure...that is a fact. If they are not taught to be safe then the consequences can be dire. Some of the more conservative elements in the US have actually stood against teaching birth control because they think that the mother deserves to go through pregnancy if she decides to have sex. To me, that's like saying that the driver shouldn't be taught how to use safety belts because he deserves to get injured if he doesn't follow the safe driving techniques he was taught.

Sorry, but that seems a bit less than Christian to me.


Yes, reality is that people fall out of weakness/temptation or rebel. But God has given us the grace and means to rise above such if we choose to follow Him.

Contraception is the deliberate frustration/interruption of the natural consequence of conception. S*x therefore is in isolation with both partners deliberating closing off the outcome/purpose artifically. God created the sexual act to be shared in the sacred bonds of marriage and to allow for the possibility of new life to come from it.

Abstainance isn't a dirty word. Nor is this unrealistic, but again people can choose to disregard if they wish.

You judge my opinion as being unchristian. Perhaps you would like to take a quote from the bible and show me where I'm erring in this belief? So I'll understand where I've gone wrong in regards to God's purpose for sex.