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A statement of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics would be
"In a system, a process that occurs will tend to increase the total entropy of the universe."
The "system" would be the body of a diploid organism. The organism produces seed cells from the materials it ingests. The seed cells could be randomly affected to have mutations in its DNA. Those mutations could affect the physiology of the offspring organism. If that change in the offspring's physiology adversely affects it's ability to remain alive, it dies. If not, it lives, ingests materials, produces seed cells, and sends that mutation to some of its own offspring through its seed cells. Thus a change in the physiology of some of the organisms occurs within the population of that organism. Voila! Evolution.

Which part of that violates the 2nd law?


You're really reaching and you must know it.

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No it doesn't. High entropy systems are actually more complex than low entropy systems.


No entropic systems spontaneously develop complex symmetry, for example.

Again, you're really reaching. You should know that evolution and the 2nd law don't play well together.

I don't know why you people continue to make such ridiculous arguments except that you enjoy expressing what power you have in terms of affecting (or destroying) a working system, like a script kiddy.

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Learn the Otto cycle before you attempt to impart an analogy that requires its use.


You're sidestepping the point.

An internal combustion engine is intelligently designed.

In your examples about cells rising to complexity, you keep attempting to explain this process in the context of a complex environment, but this in and of itself demands intelligence.

In short, as I said, complex systems don't design themselves.

Chemical binding rules are insufficient to do anything more complex than that which the 2nd law dictates.

Do you really believe rocks and water turn to highly-complex, symmetrical, self-reproducing, machines without intelligent intervention?

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No, it's not. I am saying that because the machine works imperfectly, resultant machines are different than the original.


But the imperfection is a myth to begin with.

This is why there is no such thing as a beneficial mutation.

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The molecules involved in evolution are never outside their created environment.

If you want to talk about unlikely abiogenesis is, then you will have to also show that the complex molecules were ever outside their created environment.


If you believe abiogenesis occurs (rocks and water self-assemble into very highly complex machines like human bodies with interdependent systems and feedback mechanisms) then you have to believe the previous parenthetical statement.

Asking me to explain how a process DID NOT happen is right on part with some of your previous requests.

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So Helium with its 2 protons and 2 neutrons is not more complex than Hydrogen with its single proton? Perhaps you should acquaint me with your definition of "more complex".
The Sun is also producing Iron, Cobalt, Iodine, Selenium, Oxygen, Uranium, Plutonium and Fermium along with numerous others. This has been observed by astronomers and the process is well known.


This has nothing to do with highly-complex, symmetrical, self-reproducing machines.

It is illogical to watch a few atoms following simple rules and then conclude that human bodies resulted.

Big difference.

I'm astonished people still belief this stuff.

It's like saying, look, we threw some marbles on the ground and I can that it formed a letter "T". This means that if I do it long enough, it will eventually form a human body.

As I've said all along, known chemical binding rules are complex insufficient to build highly-complex, symmetrical, self-reproducing machines.

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Everything is simple matter or energy. dimethyl-carbonate is "simple matter". Your DNA is simple matter....what was your point.


You continue to obfuscate the point with strawmen.

Yes, things are all built from "simple" building blocks. So you conclude that the process of building is simple?

You're way off base.

You seem to confuse yourself by talking yourself into ridiculous beliefs with one sentence concepts.

Sorry, it does not happen. Simple matter does not self assemble into astronomically-complex machines. Chemical binding rules do not permit it. There has to be intervention external to the system: a "Designer".

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Are we really going to go here? Maybe this time you can tell me what part of evolution or even abiogenesis violates "established chemical laws". I say that you will not. Instead you will appeal to "common sense" or "complexity". Please don't turn me into a "prophet". Just this once actually reply substantively to the question.


First, the question is a strawman because evolution does not occur. It can't because it's prohibited by the very rules you say facilitate it.

Second, if you want me to again explain how a process DOES NOT occur, consider that it is your belief and you should therefore explain how chemistry develops symmetry.

You also try to dismiss complexity as a barrier to evolution.

Consider that your belief system is analogous to saying that if you left a computer on with Microsoft Word running for billions of years, it would eventually develop new features.

Astounding.

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However, your blanket statement about the formation of complex molecules without intelligence indicates that you think the Sun violates that law.


No it doesn't. Nice try though.

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Please take a fossil that has been identified by paleontologists as "transitional" and show what aspects of it prove it to not be "transitional".


So again, you want me to explain how a process DID NOT happen.

You know that evolutionists redefine the term transitional as "a mosaic of features" because there is no such thing as a transitional form. So they have to alter the definitions of the language to fit their faith (belief system).

It's right there in your face. What are you missing?

http://urlbam.com/ha/M002A

It's a lie man. Wake up.

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Ok. Let's make it simple. There are 8 directions that I can step...North, Northeast, East, Southeast, South, Southwest, West, and Northwest. What is the probability that I will be at my starting point after one step? What is the probability that I will be at my starting point after 2 steps? 10? 100? 1000? 1,000,000? I await the result of your calculations. Just for grins, what is the probability that I will be within a straight line of 100 steps of my starting point after 1,000,000 steps? Admittedly, this is more complex.


You are again dazzling yourself with bunk.

This is not a valid evolutionary model.

After 1 million steps, as I said, you won't be where you started, but you would not be very far away either.

A better model would have a 1 million directions and have 999,999 of them make the organism fall off a cliff to it's death.

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Depends on how you are defining "priests". Their church called them priests. In the Salam witch burnings, the presiding "judges" were the religious leaders of that Protestant denomination in the town. Whether they were acting according to Christ's wishes (I believe they were not) is immaterial. The point was:

They were using Christ's Great Commission to justify their horrid actions but that should not make Christ's teaching evil or wrong.


What a truly delusional statement.

You said...

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Whether they were acting according to Christ's wishes (I believe they were not) is immaterial.


That's completely untrue, but that's another conversation.

You also said...

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They were using Christ's Great Commission to justify their horrid actions but that should not make Christ's teaching evil or wrong.
However, you seem to believe that it does since you believe that the misuse of the theory of evolution makes it evil and wrong.


Your logic is completely twisted.

Evolution is used properly within context to conduct evil.

Evolution justifies genetic engineering, abortion, war, survival of the fittest, genocide, etc., etc.

In fact, evolution demands natural selection. What does "selection" mean?

It means death. It mean selecting who lives and who dies.

It's not possible to use Christ's great commission to justify anything of the sort.

Once again, your analogy is nonsensical.

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I didn't. In fact I have stated that Christ is not to blame for the inappropriate actions of those using his statements as an excuse to hurt others. It is your logic that blames Christ for those actions.


A refer to me previous statement.

Your logic is fatally and dangerously twisted.

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This from the guy who doesn't know the "laws of chemistry", how the Sun forms complex elements and molecules, the working of an internal combustion engine, or how to glean the point of a simple sentence or paragraph. Irony, indeed!


The sun does not form complex molecules genius (or maybe in your universe).

I don't mind when you steep to personal attacks. It's a sign of desperation.

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How far should we take this? God created the germs that cause tooth decay...should we brush our teeth or not? God created that little girl without the ability to produce her own insulin so maybe we shouldn't give her any. Obviously, you believe we should mess with God's creations in the above two cases.

Why do you arbitrarily draw the line at gene splicing?


OK, genius. Let me see if I can help you with these points of life that confound you.

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God created the germs that cause tooth decay...should we brush our teeth or not?


If we followed God's laws, didn't fluoridate water (thank you evolutionists), didn't eat GMO food (thank you evolutionists), didn't put mercury in our mouths and bodies (thank you evolutionists), didn't inject poisons into our bodies (thank you evolutionists), etc., etc., then there would be little or no tooth decay.

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God created that little girl without the ability to produce her own insulin so maybe we shouldn't give her any.


Do you not realize that this girl's condition was caused by some type of intoxication that man made?

When you decide to do some homework, you will discover that basically all disease is rooted in toxicity, and it happens that mercury is at the top of the list.

Stop injecting and implanting and spraying mercury and most disease would go away.

Get it straight. It's man-made genius.

Most disease is man-made.

Diseases that are caused by dental and pharmaceutical mercury are treated by paying pharmaceutical companies for treatments.

They create the problem and then they sell you the solution.

Thank they don't know? Think it's an accident?

They do know. The current condition of the world is no accident. It is deliberate. Order from CHAOS is the road we're on, and this activity would never be done by a Christian, yet, when you read their own books, they tell you that evolution is the core of their belief system.

You obviously have not yet developed a complete working world view.

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Obviously, you believe we should mess with God's creations in the above two cases.


So in summary, the above cases would not exist if it were not for evolutionists.

There is no conscience.

There is no morality.

There is only survival of the fittest.

The astounding irony coming from the engineer genius here is that YOU are actually promoting the very problems that you are accusing me of promoting.

This is Linear and not Linda I'm speaking with, right? wink

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Right. That's exactly what Darwin was thinking as he put the theory down on paper.


It's a facsimile. I'm not speaking specifically about genetic engineering genius. I'm speaking about this, and all of the wonderful things that go along with this philosophy (thank you evolutionists):

"I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning, consequently assumed it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption . . The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics; he is also concerned to prove there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do . . For myself, as no doubt for most of my contemporaries, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation. The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certain political and economic system and liberation from a certain system of morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom."

—Aldous Huxley, "Confessions of a Professed Atheist," Report: Perspective on the News, Vol. 3, June 1966, p. 19 [grandson of evolutionist Thomas Huxley, Darwin's closest friend and promoter, and brother of evolutionist Julian Huxley. Aldous Huxley was one of the most influential liberal writers of the 20th century].

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That's right. Jesus said: "Thou shalt not splice genes for therein lies disaster."


Gene splicing is the cause of the upcoming famine (thank you evolutionists).

When billions die from pestilence and famine and all of the myriad of diseases related to the current chemtrail spraying campaign, we will think of the wonder belief system you adhere to and know that you promoted it.

Here are a partial list of diseases that are caused by mercury toxicity. And yes, this is the same mercury toxicity given to use by evolutionists who run government and many large corporations. A Christian would never promote the ingestion of mercury. It is against Biblical law.

* Acne - Opportunistic infections cause by general immune suppression.
* Allergies - Gut wall deterioration via mutated intestinal flora)
* Asthma
* Autism (contrary to popular belief, there is very strong medical evidence linking autism to mercury)
* Nearsightedness & Farsightedness (by altering interocular fluid eye pressure)
* Autoimmune Diseases (through methionine mimicry and other processes)
* Amylotrophic Lateral Sclerosis
* Ankylosing spondylitis
* Arterial Sclerosis Mercury activates an enzyme called phospholipase D (PLD) in cells which line blood vessel walls (endothelial cells). This activation causes the release of phosphatidic acid which damages the cells (2). These damaged cells then accumulate cholesterol-based plaque leading to arterial sclerosis.
* Myasthenia Gravis
* Parkinson's Disease
* Alzheimer's Disease (See Beating Alzheimer's) Quote From Book Review: "He had the mercury removed from his teeth and it did not change things. However,some time later when his gums were x-rayed a tiny sliver of mercury was found in the gum tissue. He had surgery to remove this minute piece of mercury and at the moment of its removal he experienced complete lucidity."
* Schizophrenia Spectrum Disorders
* Borderline personality disorder
* Anxiety
* Panic attacks
* Dysbiosis
* Leaky Gut Syndrome
* Acid Reflux - Caused by reduced digestive fluid production.
* Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)
* Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)
* Learning Disabilities
* Endocrine-Related Issues
* Aneurysm
* Depression
* Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCS)
* Manic Depressive Disorder
* Hyperacusis (sensitivity to certain sounds)
* Photophobia (sensitivity to light from weak iris response)
* Heart Arrhythmia (irregular heartbeat)
* Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS)
* Rheumatoid Arthritis
* Juvenile Arthritis
* Lupus Erythematosus
* Multiple Chemical Sensitivities
* Environmental Illness
* Chronic Fatigue
* Fibromyalgia
* Sciatica
* Gastritis
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)
* Colitis
* Crohn's Disease
* Sleep Disorders
* Anorexia Nervosa
* Floaters In the Eyes
* Bulimia
* Hypothyroidism
* Yeast Syndrome/Candida
* Uncontrollable Weight Gain
* Hair loss (Balding—Elevated DHT)
* Constipation
* Flatulence (gas)
* Shifted Circadian Rhythm (inability to sleep on a normal schedule)
* Hypoglycemia
* Hyperglycemia
* Multiple Sclerosis
* Immune Suppression (weak immune system leading to frequent general illness or numerous opportunistic infections)
* Tinnitus (Ringing In the Ears)
* Grinding Teeth While Sleeping (Bruxism)
* Insomnia
* Excessive Salivating
* Enlarged Prostate (Elevated DHT)
* Heart Disease
* High Cholesterol
* Elevated Homocysteine (increases risk of heart disease)
* Headaches
* Mole Formation (especially on the neck, underarms, inner thighs, and feet)
* Dementia
* Blood in the Urine
* Nausea and Vomiting
* "Brain Fog"
* Dizziness (loss of equilibrium)
* Short-Term Memory Loss
* Cancer
* White Coating On the Tongue
* Oily Skin (Elevated DHT)
* Shyness
* General Phobias
* Outbursts of Anger
* Feelings of Apathy (especially toward property and personal affairs)
* Suicidal Thoughts
* Social Separation/Isolation
* Feeling of a Lack of Self Worth
* Spider Veins
* Easy Bruising (and other vitamin C deficiency diseases as mercury displaces vitamin C)
* Selenium Deficiency
* Zinc Deficiency
* Vitamin C Deficiency
* Iodine Deficiency
* Magnesium Deficiency
* Elevated Blood Calcium
* ...and many more.

Thank you evolutionists!

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Now I'm evil because I don't accept the crap that you are selling. Dr. Tenpenny seems to think that a vaccine that is effective on 33% of the population with minor effects on less than 2% of the population should not be used. I guess if we could prevent 33% of traffic deaths with a 2% chance that some people would get hurt by the method of prevention, that we shouldn't institute that method of prevention. Sure, sounds logical to me confused

And you say I'm a danger to society?


How absolutely hypocritical of you, and yes: Evil.

You refuse to listen to her evidence from peer-reviewed medical literature. Then you misquote her demonizing her in the eyes of people who may have otherwise listened to her evidence.

Now, these who believe your and use your slander against her as a reason to NOT listen to peer-reviewed medical literature may have autistic children and develop any of the myriad of disease that are listed above.

How evil.

You won't listen to her, then you slander her and are making yourself an psychological hindrance to those who may otherwise learn how to properly protect their children.

You must look in the mirror and ask yourself which side you're really on.

By rebelliously and intentionally ignoring her warnings (from peer-reviewed medical literature -YES the entire DVD I gave you a link to is taken from peer-reviewed medical literature) YOU are potentially hurting people.

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This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

(2 Peter 3:1-18)

Your religion is dangerous to society, but it's exactly what the new world socialists want you to believe.

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The U.S. was a Christian republic? That would have surprised John Addams.


As I said before, the forefathers were mixed in their belief, but this republic did become based in Biblical law, and prospered as a result.

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And I believe that you're a delusional, paranoid, unlearned conspiracy theorist with no idea how to tell feces from florsheim. Is there some real purpose to be served by our lowering ourselves to insults?


It was not intended as an insult.

It is a fact.

The statements you are making and the way you are (either intentionally or unintentionally) twisting truth is evil.

A person is called evil because their perform evil.

You are performing evil.

Therefore, you are evil.

This does not mean there is no hope for you. All Christians have done evil things in their lives. But you seem to be doing them deliberately.

You twisting of logic and slander is hurtful and dangerous to people.

As far as me being delusional and paranoid...

That's fine if you want to believe that.

The truth is that you are afraid that I may be right. You are fearful that I actually have done my homework (which I have) and that 5 billion people may actually die from chemtrail spraying (and other evil acts of these monsters) in the next few years.

You are too afraid to face that fact that Dr. Tenpenny and the peer-reviewed medical journals that she teaches from may cause you to have to face that fact that God was right all along and that evil controls the world.

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We know that we are from God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
(1 John 5:19)


Once again, YOU are calling the kettle black. YOU are afraid.

Instead of name calling and character malfeasance, perhaps you will consider humbling yourself and learning the truth of these things so you don't hurt others by spreading the gospel of Linear.

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Which of the original laws were based on the Bible? The first amendment to the Constitution perhaps? Which laws that we have now are unBiblical?


Do you honestly not know this.

You claimed to be a Christian. Are you?

Biblical law is based on the concepts of personal responsibility and liberty. English common law (as I previously stated) is based on Biblical law and American law is based on English common law.

Is there anything here you disagree with?

If you are lacking knowledge of these things, just let me know and I'll gladly explain them to you in more detail.

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Which part of the theory of evolution is about political systems of government? A simple quote from a textbook will do.


What part of any ideology is not political?

A single example will do.

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The International Bible Society was founded in 1809. Which mass media companies do they own? You of course have real evidence of this....you know...some reference, records of transactions, contracts...etc?

So, the International Bible Society members are evil God haters.

Other evil God Haters are:
Assemblies of God denomination
Church of God denominations
The Christian Reformed Church
National Association of Evangelicals

among others.


Again, you are taking a rebellious, slanderous approach to this information that obviously causes you to be afraid.

First, this is a trans-generational conspiracy.

Second, many large organizations have been taken over in the past 100 years.

Third, instead of telling me that I have no evidence for this, why don't you make sure you continued to avoid the videos and resources (like Dr. Tenpenny's lecture and references) that I have posted in the Bible forum and kindly provided for you on this website.

This way, if you don't listen to these referenced videos, you can remain willfully ignorant and can attempt to continue to avoid the responsibility that accompanies liberty.

This way you can continue to call me ignorant with a clear conscience (because you don't know any better).

This way, you can accept the mark and then tell God that you didn't know.

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