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I have noticed that you consistently complain about science being "old."

A silly accusation. I don't either.


This is "old news."
This information is "50 years old."

We've known that the earth goes around the sun for several hundred years. I guess by your standard that's "old news" too, and therefore invalid.

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The point is that it's been discovered that both oil and coal can form quickly. The old reasoning that this takes a long time, so the geologic processes must also take time/be old doesn't fly. To workaround this by employing circular reasoning is bogus.


Fallacy of composition

I've linked twice now to sites that explain how most oil forms slowly under the earth. Those processes by their very nature must take a long time. Oil travels through rocks with water, and the rates at which this happens are slow; in the case of pressurised shale, very slow. That isn't to say that some oil can't form quickly under other conditions. Please, just educate yourself about this.

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So "try millions of years" would be your answer?

My next question would be how Hunt arrived at the stated estimate, and how it compares to other estimates.


Sure. Look here, at the table next to "carbon in the oceans." That is a lot of carboniferous sedimentary rock. You are claiming that all the organisms that formed all of those rocks existed on the earth in the space of a few thousand years. If that somehow makes sense to you then we can leave it at that and move on to discussing something else.

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I take it you've never seen fossils of giant dragonflies & such?


Fallacy of hasty generalisation

Logic doesn't follow that because dragonflies (and numerous other organisms) were larger in the past (bold emphasis mine),

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Every indication, without exception, is that things grew larger, more rapidly, lived longer


Like I said, the fossil record does not support this. In the case of dragonflies, we also have fossils of dragonflies that are about the size of those today, or smaller. I think you are referring to one particular giant species that lived in the Carboniferous.

There are also fossils showing dwarfism having occurred. An example of this is when a population lives on an island and has to adapt to limited resources there. That is what scientists believe happened with homo floresiensis, though that is a topic for another thread.

I am waiting for you to back up your statements here with evidence.