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I said:
One of the biggest problems for flood geology is the sheer QUANTITY of biologically derived material buried in the earth.

You said:
The vast assumption here is that it requires biologically-derived material. Knowing that this assumption is incorrect invalidates the remainder of your statement.

How Long Does It Take to Make Oil?


Some (though very little) oil in the earth probably formed abiogenically, and some oil can form quickly. Your vast, and incorrect, assumption is that therefore all oil formed quickly, and in the way described in your video. Some types of oil do take millions of years to form because of the geological processes at work.

Without the oil and coal, there is still a large biomass of carbonate rocks in the earth's crust. For example, the Livingstone Limestone in the Canadian Rockies contains at least 10,000 cubic miles of broken crinoid plates.

Glenn Morton cites data published by Hunt indicating that the carbon in the coal alone is 50 times that in the entire present biosphere. And the carbon in all oil deposits is 660 times that in the entire present biosphere. That in oil shales and other sedimentary rocks is 40,000 times that in the present biosphere.

It would be impossible for all that biomass to have accumulated in just a few thousand years, as YECs claim. It would also spell disaster for the earth's ability to regulate its climate, as this amount of available carbon in the biosphere dwarfs the amounts that are causing concern for climate change today.

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The process you are referring to is sedimentation. This is an observed, reproducible physical process that is well-known today.


This was your response to what I said in my previous post:
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Evaporites are types of rock created by evaporation. You can evaporate a whole lake of very "salty" water and get mere millimeters of salt or gypsum to accumulate. Some large evaporite layers are dozens of meters tall.

You could say that the flood receded and allowed time to evaporate before returning but that would not be consistent. Remember the Bible says that there was only one flood. There is also a problem considering the amount of time it would take to produce these layers in the earth that are then buried by even more layers that have different properties that take time that just simply cannot fit into a year time frame.


What I am referring to is a specific process of sedimentation that produces evaporite rock. This kind of rock forms when mineralised water dries up. The obvious question here is, why are there layers and layers of evaporites, some separated by other rock formations, when there was supposed to be a global flood happening?

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First, the irregularities in dating methods (the noise induced in the output data when dealing with short time periods) obfuscates the bottleneck.


Your vague reference to dating, above, seems to suggest that you are unaware that Genetic bottlenecks are not dated in the same way that rocks are. Scientists study genetic changes over generations and they also study the genetic variability within existing populations. You will see in the above link that there is no evidence of bottlenecks in species worldwide at the time of the supposed global flood.

Interestingly, studies on the human Y-chromosome also show that a global flood could not have happened as the Old Testament claims. If it were true, than all males would have received their Y-chromosome from Noah. The Y-chromosome only exists in males and is passed from father to son, so all of Noah's sons would have received his Y-chromosome. This means that all differences in the Y-chromosomes in modern human males would be mutational differences accumulated over the past 4,000 years or so. This should amount to very little variation. However, genetic studies show that in order to account for the genetic differences in human Y-chromosomes, you need a timespan of approximately 60,000 years. Similarly, studies on mitochondrial DNA (which travels down the female lineage) show that it has too much variation to support the idea of Eve living 6,000 years ago. There is ample evidence in human mitochondrial DNA for a bottleneck event in the early history of homo sapiens but in order to explain the subsequent genetic variation in human mitochondrial DNA requires 140,000 years of accumulated mutations.

In response to my question about angular unconformities, you simply linked me to the “Drama in the Rocks” video again. This video has nothing to do with angular unconformities; it (incorrectly) illustrates horizontal deposition in a coastal environment. What's more, we've discussed this video before. The video's claim that geologists are ignorant of the sedimentation processes it describes, or that they want to conceal their existence, would appear to be contradicted by the video I posted of the geology professor lecturing her class, with diagrams, about it. It's a Geology 101 topic, though the processes don't occur in quite the way that your video represents them. As I recall, your only response to my posts was to put more links to your video in different threads across the forum.

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We've already shown in previous arguments that this dating method is a joke and should not be used.


No we haven't. So you can show that you are not making things up, maybe you can provide a reference.

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For more information about 5 year old shoes being dated as thousands of years old by radiometric dating, see this video:


I will refrain from impulsively saying the words that come to mind after having been asked to watch this certain video by this certain person yet again. What I will say is that it is two and a half hours long, so if you feel it makes a relevant point you can put it in your own words.

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This information is blatantly untrue. Even most modern evolutionists know this.


There are a few places in the world where localised catastrophic flooding is clearly reflected in the fossil record, because the fossils are mixed up. However, this does not happen across the world or even consistently in the same geological layers. So you can show that you are not making things up, maybe you can provide a reference.

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You also need to recognize that the geologic column is a myth. You should know by now that it is only consistent in about 20 places around the world, and these are the places that evolutionists focus on.


Same question as above. Anyone can make claims. Their validity is shown through evidence.

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magnetic field measurements do not correlate with radioisotope dating neither do they correlate with stratigraphy.


This site gives an abstract from a study where the scientists correlated data from these three dating methods and created a mathematical formula which, with input from these dating methods, will yield a probability curve for the age of a sedimentary layer (bold my emphasis):

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In geochronology it is increasingly common to apply several methods to a set of samples. The task then arises of combining different types of data, with perhaps qualitatively different types of uncertainty, into a coherent age estimate which makes optimum use of the available information. In this paper we discuss a method which uses Bayesian reasoning to combine radiometric, stratigraphic, and paleomagnetic information when dating sediment layers. After presenting a general formulation, we derive an analytic formula for the probability distribution of the age of a sediment layer. We then apply this methodology to refine previous cosmogenic nuclide burial dating results for the age of a sediment layer containing a hominin fossil at Sterkfontein, South Africa.


Here are some more links to studies where these three dating methods, and occasionally others (such as cosmogenic dating) were used:

Paleomagnetic stratigraphy and radiometric dating of the pliocene volcanic rocks of Aegina, Greece

Correlation and paleomagnetism of glacial and loess-paleosol sequences on the West Siberian Plain

Stratigraphic implications of paleomagnetic data from Honduras

For those who are actually interested in the different methods scientists use to date rocks (which include many more than have been discussed here), you can find an accessible list here.

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In fact, when you do your homework, you will find overwhelming evidence for a global flood.


It has to be said, I am pretty underwhelmed so far.