Accepting the evidence for evolution is not the same thing as believing that humans created everything. Now I don't think that's what Abishag's paste-job was trying to say, but that's the implication of the rather nonsensical sentences I originally quoted. I think what it's trying to say is that because the Christian god created everything (unproven), humanism is rubbish -- I don't see the logic there. In fact the first humanists in the Italian Renaissance were fervent Christians.

Secondly, many Christians don't think that evolution and the existence of a god are incompatible. You can make statements about that here if you want but it depends on how you define your terms and your beliefs. For example, if you claim that a Christian must believe in the literal truth of every word in the Bible then sure they're incompatible; and there are some here who think that's the only definition of a Christian. If your terms are that narrowly defined then there's not much point in further discussion, which is why I don't come to this forum very much anymore -- took me a while to learn.



You may believe that the Christian god created everything and many people do. Some believe that evolution was his way of doing it. Some people believe that a different god created everything, some people believe that no divine being was involved -- there's a wide spectrum of beliefs out there. No one can empirically prove that they are correct, not even atheists, which is why it's called belief. With that in mind, maybe you have an answer to your rather puzzling question about evidence for a supreme intelligence. Not everyone looks at the world from your point of view or mine; we all have different filters we pass things through. An atheist could look at a flower and be equally as reverential of its beauty as you, without thanking a god for it. My own beliefs don't fit any of these categories so they never go over very well on creation/evolution forums.

I don't like arguing from a purely empirical standpoint anymore because there are a lot of truths in life that can't be studied in that way. But I also think it's important to keep a skeptical outlook, which means being open-minded and conscious of the evidence. You can't use the Bible as proof of creation no matter what you claim about prophecies, numerology, etc because other world religions make similar claims about their holy books so who can prove that they are right? "Just believing" that each of you are, is what starts wars. There's more to the big picture than religious dogma and evolution too, a lot we don't understand yet. I don't think we're likely to continue to learn without open minds.