Originally Posted by LinearAq
Originally Posted by CTD
Are you saying the evidence against the myth is compelling? That it deserves no defense?

I am saying that no biologist says that the clonal (asexual) reproduction you describe should always produce identical individuals.

You indicate in the first post that this "myth" is a widespread phenomenon. So, I am asking you to provide evidence that biologists are stating that clonal (asexual) reproduction always produces identical individuals.

You can't do it because you are using semantics to misrepresent the truth. You are using the popular meaning for "clone" and then providing quotes that use the word "clonal", which in the context of the research means asexual reproduction.

Clones are identical in their DNA to the individual from which the DNA was collected. However, "clonal reproduction" is not the making of clones.

BTW: What does this have to do with the truth or falseness of evolution?
I consistently use the terms 'clone' and 'clonal' in the very same sense they are used in the literature I cited. It is you who introduced the "popular meaning for clone" to the discussion for the very first time. It's a tad late for any attempts to reverse-confuse the readership. If they have read this far, it's a pretty safe bet they understand.

I asked you if you agree to a statement that is perfectly consistent with your contention, and you refused. You have access to the evidence; you can evaluate it. What then prevents you from agreeing with my statement?


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