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Obviously you don't agree with Mr Malone's conclusions. Most notably: 4. The spiral galaxies should have long ago un-spiraled, and the uneven dispersion of matter in the universe should have long ago dispersed. Since you have stated that God made the stars billions of years ago, you must not believe that the galaxies made then should have un-spiraled. Galaxies millions of light-years away show no sign of un-sprialing. Scientists working from the preconception that the universe is 10-20 billion years old have suggested controversial and complicated possibilities for how these types of transient phenomena could still exist, but their explanations are based more on faith, not science. Unlike the young universe crowd's possibilities for light from far away stars. Massively changing speed of light with no indication of far away neutron stars slowing down, or is it a gravitational time dilation effect with no indication of speeded up time causing galaxies to un-spiral?
A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke
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Joined: Dec 1999
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Obviously you don't agree with Mr Malone's conclusions. Most notably: Not entirely, but I have continually stated that young-universe creationists do have some interesting and compelling arguments that deserve to be heard. Since you have stated that God made the stars billions of years ago, No, I didn't say that, and, I've corrected you multiple times on this point. You may be walking pretty close to a post-removal. My position is that neither I nor science know how old the universe is (billions, millions, etc.?), but that there is compelling evidence that it's old, but that certain attributes of the Earth, moon, and our solar system also show signs of young-ness. This is my position. Unlike the young universe crowd's possibilities for light from far away stars. Massively changing speed of light with no indication of far away neutron stars slowing down, or is it a gravitational time dilation effect with no indication of speeded up time causing galaxies to un-spiral? Now you're catching on. Yes, we really don't know, do we? That's been my point all along. Textbooks and museums and mainstream media teach these claims as if they are known facts, yet, they are not, so they should plainly state the simple truth that there is much conflicting evidence and we don't yet know. I love science, but evolution is not science. It's propaganda. Propaganda is a social control. Thus, evolution is a social control. "The theories of evolution, with which our studious youth have been deceived, constitute actually a dogma that all the world continues to teach; but each, in his specialty, the zoologist or the botanist, ascertains that none of the explanations furnished is adequate . . It results from this summary, that the theory of evolution is impossible."—P. Lemoine, "Introduction: De L' Evolution?" Encyclopedie Francaise, Vol. 5 (1937), p. 6. "Evolution is baseless and quite incredible."—John Ambrose Fleming, President, British Association for Advancement of Science, in The Unleashing of Evolutionary Thought
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