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I will leave it at that. You agree with me that the universe is over 13 billion years old and the Earth is around 4.5 billion years old. In that, you also disagree with most YEC's


I'm sorry. I didn't say that.

It's important to be accurate when speaking about scientific matters such as this, so let me be clear.

While it is true that I disagree with young-Earth-creationists on the age of the universe, I don't believe the universe is over 13 billion years old. I stated that I do not know how old the universe is.

Please be careful, as it is just these types of generalizations that enable evolution to exists in the minds of people at all.

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I guess that since we agree on the age of the universe and the Earth, you no longer need to debate with me on this topic. Thanks for your participation.

I have noticed that no one who believes that God created the entire universe only 6000 years ago, has bothered to show up here. It's only been a short while though. Maybe they are just putting together their detailed response to refute the conclusion that the Earth and universe are eons old.


Again, you are building misinformation upon assumption, a tactic so very common when studying evolution-related beliefs.

This is not intellectually honest, and because this subject is so important, we should do our best to maintain integrity in our information.

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Technology like the measurement of radioactive isotope ratios.


That's right. These measurements have recently been shown to have fundamental issues. The ratios have been distorted because of preexisting assumptions about decay rates.

For example, some isotopes are assumed to decay over millions of years following an exponential curve, yet, we have only been able to observe these curves for 70 or 80 years, so we've only been able to actually measure a very tiny portion of the curve while assuming (predicting) what the rest of the curve will look like.

This is perfect example of a vast assumption, and this assumption is used as the basis for other conclusions, such as the age of the Earth.

These types of assumptions are the reason that 25 years ago, science thought the Earth was several hundred million years old. Now, 25 years later, science claims it is 6 billion years old.

Today, science suffers from an epidemic of hypothetical assumption assumed as truth.


"Therefore, a grotesque account of a period some thousands of years ago is taken seriously though it be built by piling special assumptions on special assumptions, ad hoc hypothesis [invented for a purpose] on ad hoc hypothesis, and tearing apart the fabric of science whenever it appears convenient. The result is a fantasia which is neither history nor science."

—James Conant [chemist and former president, Harvard University], quoted in Origins Research, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1982, p. 2.



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