Originally Posted by Bex
Hi Sean,

Well, there is no real cure except restoring immunity. Yeast is meant to be there (but in balance). It is about restoring the immunity so it can do it's job better and keep yeast at healthy levels. Easier said than done, if the underlying problem is not so easily cured or dealt with (or even understood).

People who are searching for a way to wipe out yeast maybe disappointed. If the diet has not been adjusted to both build immunity and deny overgrown yeast what it requires to thrive at high levels, they'll be wasting their time. I know I've already repeated this umpteen times, so I'm sure you don't need to hear it again.

Somebody on here tried to do a short cut method and simply use strong antifungal agents and I think without the diet in place or they didn't pay much attention to it. At first, it seemed to work, until later when and as far as I know, they were back here disappointed.

No true professional that I know of treats their candida patients without a proper diet regime and if they do? I'd be very suspicious.

I still think it's the safest and healthiest way and has been for me.

My doctor gave me baking soda recently Sean. But I am no longer taking it. I did not like my response to it and though it maybe "die off", I'm thinking it may not be. There are different theories about dealing with yeast. Baking soda may cause overdosing of sodium and somebody I know who took it wound up severely mineral deficient. They said they will not take it again. One article I read mentioned how yeast thrive in an over alkaline environment and baking soda is suppose to promote alkalinity.

Though one lady who is I think an expert on candida, does not really believe in the acid/alkaline theories and believes the body will balance that itself. She does believe that baking soda is an antifungal, but she says it depletes essential minerals and does not recommend it's use.

Not sure what it did to me, but the day I used it, I was miserable that night. again could have been die off, but it felt more like the opposite to me....could be wrong though. Let me know how it goes for you if you try the stuff.
Candida causes autoimmune disorders Bex, so why would getting rid of alot of it and rebulding healthy bacteria jack up the immune system and help all itself? Wouldn't you get better then and your immune system be better? If you got it from antibiotics that killed off the healthy and allowed the other to get out of balance and therefore your immune system is effected from that correct? Candida is a secondary effect I know, but Antibiotics or steroids causing it would therefore make your yeast grow out of proportiong as opposed to good and your immune system supressed then too right? I think there is no cure, but you can get it in check and get it back your balance, therefore your immune system will function better. I talked to Dr Whiting who has studied this for 20 years and asked him tons of questions, he says there is so much disinformation on the internet about Candida on message boards and so on, like the metals causing it and the things to get rid of it, he says the only way he has seen in his studies of conquering it are buffered Oral Oxygen, in his studies thats the only thing that has worked. Is he right? He knows more than me so I will take his word for it and believe there is disinformation about it on the net and truths being blown outta proportion. Antifungals are like the diet, they supress symptoms of it and the day and hour you go off of them it will be back ten fold or adjust to the antifungal over time and therefore rendering it useless over time, it adapts (Smart buggers). I would not suggest Antifungals all the time, truly could whipe out good bacteria too and innefective long term. Baking Soda is a short term alkalizer of the body, like you said I would not use that long term nor trust in that to kill off Candida. I am looking into the Oxygen now and doing more research on this, I have come far and see things that work and don't wrok, from personal or talking to Dr. Whiting on the phone etc. He even says like you said we all have Candida, yes there is a purpose for it, when that gets out of balance like you said the trouble begins, whatever the cause my have been. It seems you can't handle a whole lot, I have the problems with certain things too and it flairs it up and I feel nuts, I understand your points there.

I am not preaching at you just telling you my studies Bex, I hope you can read what I just wrote and understand where I am coming from.

Last edited by Sean; 02/22/09 12:09 AM.
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