Belief in the Bible is the core of the philosophy of the Inquisition, hence, a faith in the Bible is an essential cause of religious torture.
Question: Do you even know who conducted the inquisition?
Enlighten me. Referencing contemporaneous documents would be preferred.
If you do, you will realize that it was not conducted by Christians.
Not Christians that would be acceptable to you. They said they were Christians. You have evidence that they were not?
Nevertheless, I could use the same argument (except in this case it would be valid) to demonstrate that evolution facilitated this behavior:
Dahmer speaks on evolution:
http://urlbam.com/ha/M000cGood. You understood my point that your quote says is invalid.
The people who instituted the Inquisition truly believed that it was a good way to save souls.
No, they did not.
Assertion Alert!
The same is true of the inquisition. There were ulterior motives being executed by this "special interest" group, not Christians.
Even if this is true, my point is made. People doing something abhorrent and using a truth as reason for doing so, does not invalidate that truth.
The same with evolution. If the theory of evolution is true, people using it as an excuse to act immorally has no bearing on the truth of the theory.
True, but the consequences of the promotion of evolution fall in your hands.
Do you accept this responsibility?I am not responsible for the behavior of others or their interpretation of scientific facts. So you would rather lie about the truth than deal with people using that truth for their own nefarious ends? Perhaps you wouldn't have recommended the canonizing of the parts of the New Testament with the Great Commission in it?
If it were the cause of immorality, then people who believe in evolution could be shown to commit more crimes than those who don't. Is there a study that shows this?
We could draw some useful data into this discussion....
Could you provide a source for your statistics, especially the ones regarding crime rates?
Nuh-uh...amino acids assemble into proteins every day.
Again, I can't help but to believe that you're playing word games.
The term I used was "self-assembly". My statement stands, unless, of course, you can provide evidence that amino acids self-assemble into proteins.
My statement:
"There is no credible evidence supporting the self-assembly of amino acids into proteins."Yes they do...it has been seen inside cells.
Sorry, I asked for your evidence first. Shifting the burden to me doesn't alleviate you from providing support for yours and Dr. Kenyon's claim.
No. I want you to provide Dr. Kenyon's evidence for his beliefs. He is a scientist so he must have evidence for why he decided to make the claim that amino acids can't "self-assemble" into proteins when they do it in cells all the time.
For now, I'm relying on Dr. Kenyon's professional opinion in this discussion.
...because he is one biochemist that seems to be on the side of creationism. Seems like the only reason that you buy his story and not that of the thousands of other biochemists that disagree with him.
Conditions do indeed change, but the rules of chemistry do not.
My position all along has been that there are woefully insufficient chemical binding rules to facilitate the formation of highly-complex, symmetrical, sexual (different organisms having perfectly compatible reproductive systems), self-replicating machines from forming by themselves.
Name one process put forth by evolutionist biologists regarding the mechanisms of evolution that is incompatible with the "rules of chemistry".
My position continues to express that such a process has never been observed and is therefore accepted by faith, and is therefore a religion.
If you wish to believe that atoms self-assemble into human bodies (given the right conditions), you are free to do so. I personally find that such a belief is an affront to the integrity of science.
Your inability to discuss chemistry beyond your amorphous assertions about "rules of chemistry" makes your assessment of the evolutionary processes pretty much invalid.
I will not fuel an ad hominem attack on me.
There are no victims here.
You have contradicted yourself and considering that all the other evolutionists that have argued on this forum have lied about their beliefs and/or identity, we are wondering if you are doing the same.
Really? What did Linda lie about concerning her beliefs? What about RAZD?
This is a fair request. It is not an attack of any kind.
In fact, if you just answer the question, there would most certainly be no "fuel for an attack", unless of course, you provide the "fuel".
Why is it a fair request to know what I believe about God and Christianity? Does that change the argument or is it just so you can start the Inquisition machine again and try to discredit evolution by making me look dishonest?
For the record and the last time: I am a Christian who studies the Bible about 4 times a week. I don't expect you to believe me and I really don't care if you do.
No, I don't think that most dentists, doctors, and scientists are dishonest. I have clearly told you that previously.
What you say here and what you imply by other things you say are in opposition.
You claim that scientists "go along" despite knowing that evolution is a farce. In light of all the problems you say are caused by evolution, do you consider this honest behavior?
Dentists profit by selling silver-mercury(?) amalgams. You say the there is scientific evidence that this is causing damage. So, if the dentists are aware of the evidence then they are dishonest. If they are not aware of the controversy then they are incompetent or apathetic. So maybe you don't think they are dishonest...just incompetent.
Linear, I don't mind debating with you, but I do insist in seeing some evidence to support your assertion that amino acids self-assemble into proteins, regardless of the conditions.
I never asserted that. I said if the conditions were right, the amino acids would assemble into proteins.
Feel free to describe the conditions for us if you like. I'm listening.
You're the one who knows all the "rules of chemistry". Pray tell, what are the conditions inside a cell that are conducive to a particular set of amino acids combining to form a particular protein? I will research the conditions inside a cell, also.
