Originally Posted by Russ
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Yeah and 2 minutes on YouTube will provide a number of "qualified" theologists that will tell me that Allah is the One True God and the Koran is infallible scripture. Surprisingly, you don't agree with that despite the fact that they are on YouTube. Maybe you could be a little more specific.


You work for NASA. You know how to search YouTube to find real scientists lecturing real information (I assume).
Yes I have and the ones supporting your position invariably show that they don't really understand science. Most times they don't even understand the theory of evolution.

Maybe you have some particular key words I can use to find the rare person that supports your position and actually understands the science.

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It's your homework. I've already done mine.
Well, I've done my homework and listened to supporting information from both sides. My research shows that the vast majority of people that support your point of view regarding evolution don't really know what they are talking about. The ones that do know what they are talking about typically leave out or ignore evidence that contradicts their position.

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Do you believe that all people who profit from a venture must have selfish ambitions in that venture?
No. I also don't believe that profiting from something has any bearing on the truth or falseness of that particular thing.

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Please don't be rude. I am putting in my time here to help people. You certainly don't have to believe me, but it's true nonetheless.

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You want me to research something you already have evidence for? You have an allegiance to truth but hide it under a basket when you could easily (so you say) point me to it directly. I have to wonder why that is.


Again, it's your homework, not mine.
You're putting your time in here to help people...except me apparently.

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Christ spoke in parables because it is not given that everyone should understand them. Likewise, if you don't have a passion for truth, though I provide mountains of evidence, it will not help you.
You won't know until you try. You're not Christ so you can't be the judge of what I will gain from your evidence. That's like saying you won't tell someone about the salvation message because they won't respond to it anyway. You don't know if I have a passion for truth or not.

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Right! Look at all the commercials that promoted evolution during the Super Bowl!!


Is this honestly how you believe they do it?

It's much more intelligent than that.
That was sarcasm. No I don't believe that is how they do it. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

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In what way do they profit from evolution that is prevented by the masses accepting creationism? If you answer no other question here, which I expect, then this one deserves your particular attention. This is the central theme throughout your forum..."Big rich corporations/people telling lies to get richer and control the masses". Perhaps you could provide evidence of such because this claim is not self-evident.


Evolution justifies their most profitable agendas:

- War (Not necessary if all know the truth. By spreading false world views, they cause division, weaken the masses, and conquer - divide and conquer. Demoralization is the first of the four steps of a long-term coop.)
Because no-one who believes in the six day creation has ever gone to war to conquer other people. deepconsideration

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- Pharmaceuticals (Prohibited in the Bible, and not necessary if they stopped poisoning us with mercury, depleted uranium, and other long-term poisons.)
Drugs have never helped anyone. Riiight!!!

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- Population Reduction (A concept embraced as "necessary" by evolutionists but considered murder in the Bible.)
Population reduction doesn't necessarily mean abortion or genocide. Just have less babies.

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Here's a post that also deals with your question:

http://urlbam.com/ha/M0026
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You really believe that!!!???

[quote][quote]You've heard me say that? If not, then how about keeping with the conversation at hand.


No. This is my position:

It is truly one of the great ironies when I hear evolutionists talking about how religion takes advantage of people.


It is truly one of the great ironies when I hear creationists talking about how evolution is a religion.


A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke