Originally Posted by Bex
Hi Sean,

Even if the candida wasn't caused by bad diet, improving/changing the diet to treat candida is essential to any yeast protocol. The diet isn't a side issue, but rather the foundation before bringing onboard antifungal agents and probitiotics. I'm unsure how a person can expect to heal their leaky gut, if they still consume sugars and other foods that feed fungus/yeast and encourage toxicity and can keep a leaky gut going....

Whatever caused the candida - it still feeds upon sugars/carbs in the diet. It makes no sense to continue feeding it, whilst attempting to kill it.

I think it's a many fold issue. For me, I tried probitoics recently Sean and it's made my situation worse. I don't know what's happened. Possibly it was die off, but things have gone wrong. My body couldn't handle it and I had to stop. I personally feel it might have been because i was still in the process of healing after a cheat, and should have waited till the yeast was much reduced before using probiotics.

I probably did things the wrong way around. HOwever, since that? I am now having problems with a few foods that I was ok with before. Namely the raw nuts I could still eat and sugar free yoghurt has now appeared to have become a problem. Since probiotic use, after eating them, I now get brain fog, bloating/gas and feel toxic. I thought maybe the yeast has come back even stronger since the extra challenge? I stopped the probitoics, but am dealing with the aftermarth still.

I have glutamine in my multi vitamin/mineral supplement powder. So hopefully that is helping. I may need to get extra perhaps.

The way I've seen it done by doctors dealing in alternative health is usually diet first to cut off the yeasts' food supply. Which causes enough die off naturally. Then once toxins/die off have been reduced, then antifungals can be brought onboard to reduce it further, and later probiotics are used to repopulate the gut.

Those who get bad reactions from doing the diet alone should be alerted that the candida is thriving on the foods you're eating and when you quit their sugar supply, they start to weaken and die off. So the fact you got those reactions, may indicate how important the diet is and without it, you could be going in a circle. Antifungals cannot work so well in isolation and require dietry support. Probiotics may not be able to efficiently repopulate, when a person continues on a candida friendly diet.

In my experience with candida, I had to finally admit that the diet was necessary, as much as I was in denial - nobody likes to feel detox/die off symptoms or cravings, but that shows how necessary it is. In fact, in the end, the diet was the most effective and reliable, antifungals were supplementary and often too harsh. So diet at the very least is the first and most important first step.
I don't take antifungals per se, I take Cayenne which cleans the blood and improves blood flow to the body, that essentially can kill Candida and Parasites. Probiotics make you worse? Maybe die off, sometimes I get alot worse at first and then a week or so later start to feel alot better, when I first started all of this I felt cruddy and Candida got worse and I got rashes under my arm (Itchy), but a week into it I am starting to scratch the surface! I am starting to feel some results. Glutamine is essential if you have Candida, it heals the gut and other things which Candida causes, read up more on that Bex! I agree the diet is kid, if not that diet you are on a good diet atleast, some can handle things others can't (I can handle fruits and so on it seems you can't). Some need the diet moreso than others, I don't really need it and don't get erruptions of Candida per se unless I eat alot of sphagetti and bread and beer, then I get bad symptoms, otherwise foods don't effect me too much to really scare me. I know it has to be starved and killed off, but all of these together (Gluatamine, Cayenne, Enzymes, Proiotics) should all go into the program of killing off the yeast and healing yourself, if not Cayenne use Caprylic Acid or Olive Leaf, both VERY GOOD at helping eliminate this beast. I know Glutamine is supposed to literally TAKE away the cravings you have for sugar, so that might help me get on track some. Diet is always important and anyone knows that, I don't know if I could be as strict as you are, but there is always room for vast improvement.

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