How complex must the organism be before its population can be subject to natural selection?
Complex enough to reproduce.
Salt crystals form from a salt solution once one crystal is available to provide a structure to be copied. Is that reproduction? Define what you would consider reproduction and why that must be the point at which organic compounds can interact to increase complexity.
Of course, this is a moot point because of the mathematical absurdity that a series of perfectly-coordinated beneficial mutations could occur that would happen to form mind-bogglingly complex, symmetrical, sexual (different organisms having perfectly matched sexual subsystems), self-reproducing machines in the first place.
You're indeed playing roulette in a wheel so big, anyone who saw you playing would be laughing.
This brings me to the topic-starter for this thread:
http://urlbam.com/ha/M0024I believe it speaks for itself.
Yes, it tells anyone with a background in statistics that you don't have any idea what you're talking about.
It's plain to you, yet you can't explain it at all. That's the conclusion I have to draw here since you have yet to provide anything close to an attempt to explain how natural laws are insufficient.
Evolution is so silly to those of us who can see through the mountain of artificial lies propping it up (much like the Wizard in
The Wizard of Oz), that in our minds, you may as well be telling us that the world is flat.
You consider this a valid or appropriate answer to my post? why?
Secondly, evolution is your assertion. Perhaps you should be explaining to us how these masterfully complex, symmetrical, sexual, self-reproducing machines form by themselves.
Since that is not what the theory of evolution states, why should I?
Third, here's a hint to satisfy your challenge.
Simple rules: opposite charges attract. So, an atom with a positive charge will bind to one with a negative charge. This is a fundamental rule that is woefully insufficient to build a highly-complex, symmetrical, sexual, self-reproducing machine.
If this is supposed to have prevented chemicals from forming amino acids, peptides, proteins and DNA back when there was no life, shouldn't it stop those things from happening now?
Maybe you need to explain further how "opposite charges attract" prevents complex molecules from forming.
Evolution is a pipe dream for those who strive to believe there is no God.
The former Pope would disagree with you on this point.
which is why eggs and sperm can never become a baby...Ah entropy.
Is that what you call entropy?
You said entropy will "Break matter down to its simplest stable form". Babies are hardly simple stable forms.
So natural selection doesn't occur?
Just for fun: In this world where you claim that quadrillions of mutations formed our bodies through natural selection, why don't you name a few for us; Let's say, three?
OK
Mutation that caused the jaw to be separated into the mandible and the ear bones.
Mutation that caused the scale follicles to become hair follicles.
Mutation that caused our bodies to be unable to manufacture our own vitamin C.
Also, if this process has been going on for billions of years, where are all the dead bodies? Why do fossils demonstrate a sudden appearance of life?
There billions of fossils all over the world but that is a small percentage of the life that existed over the billions of years. Do you expect that all bodies will become fossilized? What is it about the fossilization process that indicates all bodies should have been fossilized?
Just admit it. There is no evidence supporting evolution. The more you look at the "evidence" that is provided for us by the powers that be, the more find lie upon lie upon lie.
It is the scientists that are putting forth this "evidence". Of course they are liars, according to you, but who are these "powers that be"? How are they profiting from the forcing of evolution teaching upon our children? What is it that they are using to influence schools to teach this "unscientific" stuff and forcing judges to support science in that endeavor?
One day, you'll just have to admit that evolution is a fairytale for grownups.
And one day you will support something you have said with evidence to convince me that I need to make that admission....but apparently that is not today.
It's time for science to break free from the antiquated chains of myths related to evolution.
And you will make that happen with mere rhetoric, it seems.
Of course, the powers that be don't want you to ever realize that evolution is a myth because then you would be faced with the reality that a God created all things, and this would lead you on a search that would likely include the Bible, which would teach you that the current powers that be are killing us, stealing from us, and lying to us, and they don't want you to know that.
Some people believe that God did create all things using the mechanisms that He put in place and leaving the evidence seen by physicists, astronomers, geologists, paleontologists, and biologists. Despite the evidence that people believe in God and Christ along with evolution, you still deny it is so. Why is that?
Who is lying to us, stealing from us, and killing us? Name them instead of hiding what you know behind this amorphous "powers that be". Show your evidence, otherwise this just makes you sound like Mel Gibson in "Conspiracy Theory".
Indeed, an understanding that the Bible is a revolutionary, technical, prophetic, numerologically-perfect book would (and has) lead many to freedom.
The Bible would teach many about personal rights like land ownership, privacy, personal responsibility, personal rights to protect our property, and much more; All things that the powers that by don't want us to know about because it would topple their power structure.
We really need to wake up and face the hard truth that evil really does exist, and is affecting each of our lives profoundly each day because we continue to pretend it doesn't. (Affect or exist? Both.)
I suppose this has something to do with evolution but you need to connect the dots better.
"The hold of the evolutionary paradigm [theoretical system] is so powerful that an idea which is more like a principle of medieval astrology than a serious twentieth century scientific theory has become a reality for evolutionary biologists."
—Michael Denton, Molecular Biologist, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (1985), p. 306
Michael Denton believed evolution did take place. Take a look at his book
Nature's Destiny. How the Laws of Biology reveal Purpose in the Universe.
