Originally Posted by CTD
A few posts (actually more) were spent disputing some of the most commonly-known facts about mutations.

Originally Posted by LindaLou
Where did you get the idea that all harmful mutations have to result in death? Who said this? Most mutations are on a molecular level and are not even noticeable; the vast majority of mutations are simply neutral. Conferring no particular advantage, they are not selected for in the environment.

Essentially this post is expressing incredulity that harmful mutations can be eliminated in a population due to selection pressures. I'm not sure what this is driving at. Just ask yourself if there are major populations of diseased and deformed organisms out in nature, because the "luck goddess" of evolution hasn't eliminated them yet. If you can find some, then you can claim the ideas in this post are correct. If you can't, then you might consider that this is because they were de-selected for in their environment. You might also consider the fact that selection pressures on humans have been greatly decreased since civilisation dawned, so anyone who does not take this into consideration is not understanding the role of the environment in the process.


Originally Posted by LinearAq
You claim that harmful mutations must necessarily be passed on to the next generation at a greater rate than beneficial mutations. Yet you fail to define or at least provide the theory of evolution's definition of harmful and beneficial mutations. You also have not shown any study, paper, or book by anyone in the field of biology or genetics that states harmful mutations even occur at a higher rate than beneficial ones much less remain in the population at higher percentages.

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[quote]You and LindaLou have instead insisted I must provide proof of trivial, commonly-known facts. You practice the art of refuting an argument by never addressing it. Such as are fooled by this technique cannot be helped much by the likes of myself. They have no interest in facts and are not concerned with science or truth.
I did address the facts of your premise which you have not shown are true facts. If these "facts" of yours are so "commonly-known" then you should have no problem providing documentation of such from someone that works in the field of evolution biology.

I could list more, but I think you all can remember.

One amazing thing here is what's being disputed: the harmful nature of the majority of mutations. And the fact that it's commonly known.

In this day and age, X-rays are pretty common. And anyone who's had an X-ray knows they put lead shielding over certain parts as a preventive measure against mutation.

Is there some conspiracy to prevent humans from evolving too rapidly? Has anyone met an evolutionist who bucked the system by undergoing unshielded X-rays? If anyone knows such a person, I'm curious what kind of super powers their children had. I won't report them to the government - I promise!
I was pointing out that you failed to support your claims when such support was requested of you. Perhaps you and Russ have made a major scientific breakthrough that will earn you the Nobel prize and the praises of Ken Ham, but we will never know because you won't support your statements or address direct challenges to those statements.


A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke