Originally Posted by Russ
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The currently known rules of physics and chemistry seem quite adequate to allow evolution to occur since mutations, recombination, and natural selection occur now.


First, mutations do occur, but there is no evidence to support the claim that two perfectly symmetrical ears could form by mutational processes.
Your ears aren't symmetrically perfect.

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Forget, natural selection. Natural selection cannot come into play until a machine sub-system is first built. So, let's just think about error-based processes for a moment.

Think the likelihood that all of the mutations would occur to form something as highly-complex as the ear. Now try to imagine the entire processes happening all over again in a location that just happens to be perfectly symmetrical to the first.
Think how difficult it was for someone to write the Declaration of Independence yet I could make another by simply using a copier or even writing it myself. Extra copies of gene strings have been shown to occur in nature.

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Any reasonable person would have to admit the pure absurdity of this claim.
I disagree

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So, no, all of the natural rules are not in places to all evolution to happen. In fact, the process of mutation is a "breaking" of the rules that are already in place. It is an error in the existing system. A divergence from the established set of rules that dictate that life produces after its own kind.
So mutations violate a natural law? Are all mutations supernatural? Then you believe God IS guiding the process of evolution. I have no argument with that.

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To believe that mutation could lead to the formation of such complex machines is an irony beyond belief, particularly when trying to explain it as a "natural process". No, it is a divergence from a natural process. In fact, an astronomical number of divergences from an established natural process that occur in a precision that is yet unattainable by modern technology.
Small changes that increase survivability in small amounts can lead to large changes when accumulated over time. Natural selection is required (Ex: faster gazelles don't get eaten and can make baby gazelles; bacteria able to withstand broader ranges of temperatures spread out farther; combinations of chemicals able to react more rapidly with the surrounding chemical mix, are able to make more copies of themselves.)

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Summary: Evolution is not a natural process. It is an error; An exception to the natural process.
It's supernatural?

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We need to be honest, here. We're not just speaking about a "big" change here. We're talking about highly-complex, sexual (two separate parts with complex parts that work perfectly together), symmetrical, self-replicating machines.
Careful, your incredulity is showing.
It sounds like you believe that natural selection does not occur with mere conglomerations of chemicals (assuming this is a reference to your "rocks to man" scenario. However we know that is not true. Different solubility rates and solution concentrations affect precipitation of particular chemicals.

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Since a faith in evolution is necessary for the power brokers to continue their enormous corrupt profits, they must continue their propaganda supporting evolution just as they must continue their propaganda against herbal medicine.
I guess that herbal medicine brokers don't make profits from the sales of their products.

Regardless, who are these power brokers and how does the the promotion of evolution help them increase their profits. Is it just the promotion of evolution that makes their profits corrupt? If not, what is it about their profits that causes you to label them as "corrupt"?

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When you take a close look, you discover that evolution is not based on science. It is based on propaganda, disinformation, and lies.
I have taken a close look. Perhaps I am not able to access the same information that you are. I have asked you to show me the evidence that you use to make this assessment of evolution but you still have not provided it. Should I just take your word on this? Why should I trust you?

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I love science. Evolution is an affront to science just as pharmacology is an affront to health.
I always thought my pharmacist looked kinda shifty. My sister the doctor is probably evil too. I'm just used to her evil ways because she's my sister.

So you never go to doctors or take any drugs?



A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke