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Sean, I've heard similar regarding Chlorella. Some do very very well on that stuff and others get very sick. I had strange effects with it when I was in the early stages of mercury detox and had high blood/body levels. I had times where the reaction was so severe and dangerous that I was psychotic almost (ended up between the bed and the wall screaming and crying). Yet other times when I felt good after taking it.
Another time the reaction was so bad, even after i stopped, it took me 2 months to recover from the reaction. It did indeed mobilise far more mercury than my body could handle.
So the mixed responses were difficult. I also tried garlic supplementation and that was powerful also and very definitely moved mercury. Though I had to stop that too because the symptoms were beyond my ability to cope alot of the time.
Selenium was also a problem when I was high in mercury. Because it displaces mercury and can cause detox or redistribution reactions to a point. But it's not generally a chelator or mobilising agent in itself. When you replace what mercury depletes and gets in the way of, you get a certain amount of mercury redistribution apparently. Because mercury binds so much of what we need and takes their place. Replace those elements and you get a competing reaction. That's pretty much how I understand it. however, selenium was also a great help and began, after the reactions, to make me feel better and healthier and less toxic. Though I had to keep taking breaks at first until I got less and less toxic.
You can actually become acutely poisoned from using a mobilising agent, when the body had actually stored the mercury in the safest places it could before this. After mobilising, the body has little choice and the mercury goes anywhere and everywhere.
Selenium may not be a chelating agent - but it can indeed cause reactions. Possibly both from it's powerful antioxidant effects (aiding natural detox) and of course possible competition with mercury and displacement of some of it. Other than that, it's a pretty good one to take if you can tolerate it. But the best tolerated form is selenomethonine. Other forms may produce worse reactions. This seems better. Also start with a lower dose and work up to what you can handle, but be careful not to take too much. Probably no more than 200 mcg or so. Since yu maybe getting some from foods/nuts.
Even the addition of a good quality vitamin C powder with bioflavanoids was enough at first to precipitate a certain amount of metal movement and detox. Though not a direct chelating agent, the indirect power of increased antioxidant power can drive toxins out more efficiently and some of that maybe a certain amount of metals that have been more easily moved out (more accessible and surface perhaps).
Vitamin E is also an excellent choice. I'd say those three antioxidants (C, E and selenium), plus possibly zinc and milk thistle are great to use if tolerated. In fact, in my early stages all I took supplement wise was the E, C and selenium and they did ALOT for me. That plus diet and moderate exercise and hot baths for sweating (with the additon of epsom salts or baking soda and sea salt). Though I required proper chelation, those three things were very helpful along the way.
I did "ok" on a homeopathic detox kit from "HEELS". But even that was often too powerful. I had to take a much lower dose that indicated and take many breaks from it because it was so powerful in its detox ability. But certainly it was a great natural alternative. That was also instrumental in getting more metals out of me. I must not ignore that product, because I know that it helped.
Again, I just wound up using Cutler's mostly. His worked very well and got me on the road to more efficient and faster recovery without the psychotic episodes.
And of course diet is very very important. I'd say the starting point should be the diet as a foundation and then later, as one improves, adding the other stuff as tolerated.
I would never mess around with strong mobilising agents. I'd also not mess around with strong chelators like DMSA or ALA (alpha lipoic acid) (unless on a tested protocol like Cutlers).
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