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Joined: Mar 2008
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Please point out 1 irreducibly complex system within any creature then show me what makes it irreducibly complex. OK: All of them. I'll be giving this some thought. There's a good chance it's so. I'll kick myself if I overlooked it. I have studied it enough to know that the "theories" and "evidences" provided to support it, don't meet the criteria to even call it a viable hypothesis much less a theory. Michael Behe, himself stated on the witness stand in Dover, PA that the requirements of science would have to be lowered in order for ID to be considered a theory. In fact, he agreed that if the standards were lowered enough for ID to pass the test, then astrology would also meet the criteria for a viable theory. So, since your attempting to quote Mike. Do you believe Mike to be honest? If so, do you believe he is qualified to make that statement? If so, is he an evolutionist? If not, then why are you referring to him at all? (Seems a little contrary to your position, don't you think?) Ironic. ((Russ shakes his head while his eyebrows hit the ceiling)) Actually, he doesn't quote Mike. The whole argument there is an appeal to emotion and ignorance. It plays on people's aversion to astrology, which we're told has been debunked by science. If astrology were immune to scientific inquiry, science would be powerless to debunk it. The conclusion that astrology can be investigated scientifically is unavoidable. The very people who present this argument claim it's already been done. The argument logically defeats itself, but oh! The emotional pull... it's just so irresistible ...someone help me! Pfft!
Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson
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