Just always was.. Just always was.. Always was.. Just go back back back back back back, keep going.. Always was.. We are the creatures of time. We are the limited ones. It just is.
You know that saying that goes.. For people who believe no proof is neccesary.. For thoses who don't no proof is enough. Well there's plenty of proof enough for me that God exists. That Jesus walked the earth and the Bible is true. And thats proof enough for me. You too..
And on the subject of.. Just always was, an eternal pre-existence of a Creator.. As majestic and as powerfull of a statement also found in just observeing the universe above.. I think of theses words..
So irresistible are theses evidences of an intelligent and powerful Agent that, of the infinite numbers of men who existed thro' all the time, they have believed, in the proportion of a million at least in Unit,in the hypothesis of an eternal pre-existence of a creator, rather than in that of a self-existent Universe.
Thanks for sharing that - and for me as a believer, it is self evident. Which is why the bible tells us:
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Psalm 19:1-6 The heavens declare the glory of God; the vault of heaven proclaims his handiwork, day discourses of it to day, night to night hands on the knowledge. No utterance at all, no speech, not a sound to be heard, but from the entire earth the design stands out, this message reaches the whole world. High above, he pitched a tent for the sun, who comes forth from his pavilion like a bridegroom, delight like a champion in the course to be run. Rising on one horizon he runs his circuit to the other, and nothing can escape his heat.
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Titus 2:11 For the grace of God our Savior hath appeared to all men.
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"the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written: 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.'" (1 Corinthians 1:18-19)
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2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine into them.
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Ephesians 4:18 Having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart
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Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient
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II Peter 3:5-7 Knowing this first, that in the last days there shall come deceitful scoffers, walking after their own lusts, saying: Where is the promise or his coming? for since the time that the fathers slept, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they are wilfully ignorant of, that the heavens were before, and the earth out of water, and through water, consisting by the word of God, Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.
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Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Even if a person was without a bible and had never read or seen one, God has already revealed Himself clearly through His creation so that ALL people might come to Him. So truly one is without excuse. A finite mind cannot possibly comprehend the infinite mind of God, nor His infinite existence without beginning or end.
Physics is built on the concept of infinate space time.
How so?
Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth
"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm
"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson
"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson
--I have enjoyed reading your posts, Bex and Lynn. Thank you!
--Just last night I was reading in the Psalms. Psalm 90: verses 1 - 2 ,"LORD, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God."
Psalm 93: 1-2 "The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
"Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting." ~~~~~~~ This came in from Pastor Max Lucado yesterday! WOW!--
He Loved It ~
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1 NKJV
~~Of all we don't know about creation, there is one thing we do know--God did it with a smile. He must've had a blast. Painting the stripes on the zebra, hanging the stars in the sky, putting the gold in the sunset. What creativity!
Like a whistling carpenter in his workshop, he loved every bit of it. He poured himself into the work. So intent was his creativity that he took a day off at the end of the week just to rest. ~ ________________ BARUCH HA SHEM ADONAI ! Praise the Lord!
You are so very right, Bex! Our finite minds cannot even begin to fathom the infinite Being, of our Creator! He is "I AM"- The Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end! WOW!
Blessings Bex and Lynn! God bless you both, Abishag <><
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