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Linear, I'm with you. I asked to be banned (and was temporarily) cause Russ referred to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints as "stupid." Usually I blow it off or have since I've been on here save some incidences when I did lose it, but don't usually take it personal. I've had a very difficult, emotional period, though, and I know you, too, are having a hard time personally. What I find very ironic is that this site which supposedly stands for freedom, love, Christianity, etc., actually feels like something very different. In fact, not sure at this moment, at least, why I have come back on


These sites are provided by Russ for the benefit of others. At the very least it would be expected to treat it and others with some basic honesty. It was not provided for people to play games and deceive others with. To allow that to continue would not be very Christian or fair on other members/readers here and would not be in keeping with good moderation. Nobody is perfect, but a certain amount of honesty is expected. The system here should not be abused and used as a free for all to come on under false pretenses/multiple names/accounts to toy with others. And sadly it has. It was long past due to crack down. You already know this, it was pointed out on here repeatedly.

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Witnessing you being ganged up on like this is disturbing. You obviously believe in and have faith in Christ but feel there is some truth to evolution. I don't think people have a right to judge you. Neither Bex or Russ have families. Don't know much about CTD. But this site appears to be their life and they take it a bit seriously IMO. I've found it an interesting and sometimes fun experience posting on here, but all is left is those who are like minded now. The others have been banned.


Then you have witnessed from a standpoint of bias, rather than truth. This seems to be a habit of yours. It has been pointed out repeatedly why there needed to be a crackdown on deceptive behaviour/misrepresentations on this forum. Ganging up has nothing to do with it and Linear for me has been humble in his recent admissions to confusing others and understands the outcome. Deliberate malice is not involved.

This is not ganging up. It's very much to do with more than one person witnessing the confusion/contradiction and misrepresentation in someone's belief system. It helps when others give their own observations of the same, bringing forth the evidence to prove it. In other words, we were justified in asking such questions. And should not have to feel guilty for exposing such.

One wonders how you can consider this "disturbing", yet you joined in the group attack on CTD, which continued for sometime and didn't appear to have much of an issue with it.

Let us not forget how you felt when you first joined this forum. You were not impressed with how you were treated by the evolutionists. Considering you had a few go at you at onetime. I seem to remember a few of us defending you.

You're not overly subtle with your bias judgements of us and anything goes acceptance of evolutionists, even in the face of Pwcca games.

It was pointed out on here time and time again why the crackdown took place. Russ went to the trouble to give the evidence, which you swept aside in an insulting manner.

A few people have been concerned about some of your emotional and often venomous/erratic outbursts on these forums. And wondering why it continued to be tolerated - particularly by Russ.

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I don't think people have a right to judge you. Neither Bex or Russ have families. Don't know much about CTD. But this site appears to be their life and they take it a bit seriously IMO. I've found it an interesting and sometimes fun experience posting on here, but all is left is those who are like minded now. The others have been banned. There is no discussion at least on this forum. I'm going to refrain from it rather than fight and see if I want to stay on for the health aspects, but I wouldn't blame you for leaving. If you do - take care and I hope everything works out with the issues with your job. Hopefully you got to spend Thankgsgiving with your family..... If not, hopefully it wasn't painful being separated. You're an intelligent, good man with a kind heart.


Yet you appear, once again to have put yourself in position of judge. Yet you have misjudged. Linear as a person is not under judgement. Only the confusion and upset regarding his true position on his faith and those who have felt deceived/confused and wary. He aknowledges the consequences of such confusion. It is not unheard of for people to pose as Christian on creation/evolution forums for their own agenda - so pardon others for becoming uncomfortable and cynical.

As for comments on not having a family? One wonders what that has to do with this? I am sure you are aware of long term illnesses and what it can do to a person's social/love life? You would be surprised at how many single people are on here because of sickness. I can't quite see where this has much to do with anything to be honest and find it hard to judge a person based upon whether they are single or married.

If the "single status" is about having too much time on ones hands and being apparently obsessed with this forum - Can I ask how on earth the rest of the regulars here who have families managed to be on here just as much..... You included! In fact, in the shorter time you've been here than most - you have been a very frequent poster and one whom most certainly takes it seriously. So seriously in fact, that you seem to have trouble controlling the nature of your responses.

Most regulars here have been frequent/long term posters. I'm sure each have taken breaks onetime or another, as I have and do. I do not answer each and every post and sometimes cannot be bothered. Sometimes I'm frequent, sometimes I'm not.... health/work/family/life etc. It happens to everybody. Why the need to say such things?

As for the forum now being only for those like-minded? The banned should have thought of that before they continued their tirade of abusing the system and the owner's patience/reputation and baiting him for a ban. Perhaps it would be more adult to consider taking some responsibility for ones own behaviour, instead of placing blame where it doesn't belong?

I'm quite happy if people present themselves honestly on here, whether they're evolutionist/creationist, as it's only fair to fellow members. But who wants time wasters/flamers/trolls?

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There is no discussion at least on this forum. I'm going to refrain from it rather than fight and see if I want to stay on for the health aspects, but I wouldn't blame you for leaving. If you do - take care and I hope everything works out with the issues with your job. Hopefully you got to spend Thankgsgiving with your family..... If not, hopefully it wasn't painful being separated. You're an intelligent, good man with a kind heart.


If you refrained yourself, you would not have come on here with bias provocations. So much for honesty and fair judgements.

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Bex, I meant no insult to you. I noticed you are now a moderator. Haven't been on for a while so behind on reading but I'm sure you'll do a fair job. I would just hope and think that all 3 of you would keep actual kindness and sensitivity in mind as believers and actually moderate rather than judge. I thought the purpose of moderation was to keep things under control....not to keep the status quo going on your personal opinion. Hope I'm wrong.....


Hard not to find such statements rather insulting in light of what's gone on in recent times. The only way to keep things under control is also by cracking down on some pretty serious abuses to the system/freedom. Moderating a forum is not easy, but if behaviours like this (E.g. Pwcca's) are not called on and finally acted upon, then one can hardly complain at the consequences. Letting it go on, as it has done, shows what happens when people go too far and expect to be able to continue.

It's not just personal opinion. Once again, it has been pointed out to you CLEARLY with the evidence the reasons for bannings. Again, no owner/moderator would continue to tolerate such abuse to the forum and deception.

It seems to me that the banned on here have little regard for the decisions made. Little regard for the owner and those very decisions and waste no time in getting back on under new names to start pretty much where they left off.....

Being fair is one thing - being walked over and having your forum and own self treated with contempt is quite another and I think Russ finally had enough. Good on him! I hope that myself and CTD can be helpful in taking some of the load from him occassionally. But at the end, it's his call.