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Problems for atheistic evolutionists
Good arguments against evolution
Evolutionists who reject God and miracles have some huge problems to explain.
Problem No. 1
How did the universe come about?
There is no scientific law that allows something to evolve from nothing. If there was nothing in the universe to begin with, obviously nothing could happen to cause anything to appear.
Atheistic evolutionists often try to duck this problem by saying that evolution is not concerned with the origin of life, only how life progressed after it appeared. But assuming the existence of an intricately working universe with some sort of life-forms already in it is not a minor assumption, and puts more faith in an unknown, counter-intuitive process than Christians put in God. The bolded section is mine for reference. This comment only works when you are discussing atheism COMBINED WITH evolution. Is there some way we could make the topic of this thread more clear, or is this simply your way of answering my questions? I cannot help but note that Pantoufle's reading ability was at a similar level. Evolution in and of itself is indeed not concerned with the origin of life in the cosmological sense of the word. If you want to trash atheist-evolutionists you must target atheist-evolutionists and none other, not evolution. You cannot force two definitions together, say that that is how they always operate, and then trash your own self-made definition. See reductio ad absurdum, straw man argument and red herring. I'd advise you to see them yourself, but I don't think you need any suggestions on how to practice your "art". Additionally, how do you measure the so-called faith in the unknown among "atheist evolutionists" as outweighing a Christian's faith in their god? Based on what, exactly, is this conclusion drawn? Faith is simply a belief or trust that something is true. I'd say something that's harder to believe requires more faith. Likewise, I think one can have faith that something is untrue. For a Christian to have faith in his or her god is no more or less outstanding a statement than the faith I have in my gods, or that some child has faith a monster lives in the closet, or that an old woman has faith that walking under a ladder will bring her bad luck. I probably should point out that in your first sentence, you do not compare faith to faith. You compare a statement about faith to faith, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Faith is faith, man - you can't put more or less faith in something, you either have it or you don't. An uninteresting assertion. Your links don't say anything at all about this, so I interpret them to be provided in order to lure people into wasting time. Consider yourself formally warned, at the very least. I'll see what Russ makes of this.The only link that applies to anything here is the red herring. Your entire post is nothing but a red herring, and this constitutes trolling.
Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson
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