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#45188 11/15/08 08:29 AM
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I've noticed just in the space of the last 2 months that I have started to react really badly to carbs. 2 months ago I was eating 2 large cookies(I would usually binge like this every 3-4 weeks) when I had a panic attack straight afterwards. I figured it was blood sugar related. Ever since I've tried to limit my carbs still having the occasional white bread sandwich or potatoe. I just feel like my reactions to carbs are getting worse. Last night I ate a bowl of rice with chicken and felt pretty tired afterwards. I feel like my energy levels are getting worse and have had whack sleeping patterns the last couple of weeks(even with the reduced sugar diet). Prior to two months ago I was consuming more sugar and had more energy, I would have no problem consuming the occasional chocolate bar or fruit juice. My question is does hypoglycemia usually hit slowly over time or can it just hit you one day out of the blue?

freeballin #45200 11/15/08 04:09 PM
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I've had the same. I was getting panic attacks also and extreme anxiety. Strange fears that made no sense and I decided I was probably going crazy. I never figured it had anything to do with the high carbs or sugar I was still eating. Even though I wasn't eating a great deal of sugar, I was eating just enough to keep this happening.

I think it can appear to hit out of the blue, but the problem may have been there for sometime before the final straw. Once you hit that point, then it doesn't take much to set off those reactions.

I had to make an entire clean up of my diet to reduce the yeast and then the anxiety/panic problem went away (almost completely). Because the upset blood sugar levels appeared to be both from the diet, but also side effects from the yeast (which give off alcohols).

Took a few weeks. I had to go through the die off process though and it's not fun, but worth it. You know if it's yeast, when you start feeling the impact of them dying off. Once your body has reduced the excess yeast, you can start to notice real differences. In energy and mental outlook and many other things can improve.

I had to cut out sugar, wheat/gluten, yeast, and reduce or eliminate high carb foods like fruit, grains, milk (lactose), high carb vegetables like potatoes/corn/pea/beans.

Also coffee.

So though my diet was limited, at least I felt better and more normal. I just basically consume meat, chicken/liver, eggs (free range), low carb vegetables, yoghurt (sugar free, acidophilus), almonds/brazil nuts and butter, extra virgin olive oil, mercury free fish oil and take supplements.

Liquids - just herbal or black tea (no milk) and vitamin powders in water.

That's about it. If I go off this, I pay for it big time. It's not worth cheating at all.

This maybe what is happening to you. Also, when I start getting hypoglycemia symptoms many years ago, I thought I should eat more sugar to help, yet instead, it was making matters worse in the long run. once I got on a sugar free/gluten free diet, I had dramatic improvements (though at that time, I had mercury toxicity, but not the viral/infection issues I have now).

Bex #45212 11/16/08 12:56 AM
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Yeah that diet is the one i know i should be undertaking but damn its hard. I love my meat but i like to have beans or a slice of bread a day and and serving of fruit for daily carb intake. I know the white bread has to go. Last night i even reacted badly to bluberries damn it, a low GI fruit. Looks like I have to cut out sugar completely.

freeballin #45215 11/16/08 03:11 AM
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Yeah it is hard, at first. But once you're on it and established and the excess yeast has reduced - you should start to feel a lot better and the cravings should go away. But at first, things do get worse, which is why it's a challenge to stick to it for long enough to get improvements.

Yeah, you sound like me. Even some more low sugar fruit is intolerable for me now. White bread is also - but then it contains bleached flour and I can't handle that, or any gluten grain.

You "might" be able to handle some gluten free, yeast free bread from particulary health food shops, but you may not if you are reacting to all high carb foods....

It's annoying I know. I hate it and it shouldn't have to be this way, but sadly it is. I never used to have to be this strict. I had to alter my diet because of the mercury, but I only needed to knock our sugar, yeast, wheat/gluten. I could still eat eat fruit, potatoes, chips, honey, gluten free bread/cereals etc.

But once I got this virus/bacteria infection? That's when things really changed and i have had to adjust accordingly. Plus a round of antibiotics made it even worse! So yeah, it's a bugger.

If the underlying condition is improved/cured, then one would not require to remain on such a diet, or need to get on one in the first place. I don't mind giving up some things, but it just gets ridiculous when even fruit becomes an issue.

Bex #45219 11/16/08 09:41 AM
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Do you think I should see a doctor? I havent seen a doctor in about 2 years. I havent found any that arent pill pushers so I have avoided them. What should i get checked out? General blood work? Thyroid? a scan for pancreas tumor possibility? Brain scan?

freeballin #45220 11/16/08 10:06 AM
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I'm confused in the symptoms I'm getting I'm not sure if it's hyperglycemia or hypoglycemia... I seem to have a mix of symptoms from both sides.

Hyperglycemia
Extreme thirst: No
Frequent urination: No
Dry skin: No
Hunger: No
Blurred vision: Yes
Drowsiness: Yes
Nausea: No

hypoglycemia
Shaking: No
Fast heartbeat: Yes
Sweating: No
Anxiousness: Yes
Dizziness: Yes
Hunger: No
Impaired vision: Yes
Weakness and/or fatigue: Yes
Headache: No
Irritability: Somewhat

freeballin #45224 11/16/08 02:37 PM
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You could see a doctor just to get some tests done, but I'd avoid any medicated "answers". I am not sure enough about hypo or hyper glycemia, but looks like it's closer to hypoglycemia based on symptoms.

However, I consider that either one of these and many other disorders like this have their cause and for me it was both candida and mercury (either one/both) that did this. I suffered many symptoms that one could put under either list also.

Blurred vision, fatigue, anxiety, fast heartbeat, blurred vision, drowsiness, extreme thirst etc etc.

Symptoms like these can come under many diseases/disorders. It was only after I treated the candida (and later mercury) that things improved enough to where I figured out what the culprits were. I don't think there are medicated answers anyway to these things, I consider them symptoms of a bigger problem and something is behind it causing the disruption.

I was told I had hypoglycemia too, but it was just candida doing its thing on me (and mercury). I didn't know it then though. Thank goodness a good doctor who was also into alternative health got me onto a candida diet fast and kept me there until I started making progress. Had he not done this? I hate to imagine what may have happened, considering I was suicidal also. That just coincided with depression/anxiety from the toxicity.

But if you are concerned and want to have things checked out as well? Then you could definitely go and have blood tests done and any scans available to you.

Check this out: (you can see how one thing leads to the other)
http://www.flcv.com/leakyghg.html

freeballin #45235 11/16/08 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by freeballin
I've noticed just in the space of the last 2 months that I have started to react really badly to carbs. 2 months ago I was eating 2 large cookies(I would usually binge like this every 3-4 weeks) when I had a panic attack straight afterwards. I figured it was blood sugar related. Ever since I've tried to limit my carbs still having the occasional white bread sandwich or potatoe. I just feel like my reactions to carbs are getting worse. Last night I ate a bowl of rice with chicken and felt pretty tired afterwards. I feel like my energy levels are getting worse and have had whack sleeping patterns the last couple of weeks(even with the reduced sugar diet). Prior to two months ago I was consuming more sugar and had more energy, I would have no problem consuming the occasional chocolate bar or fruit juice. My question is does hypoglycemia usually hit slowly over time or can it just hit you one day out of the blue?


I agree with Bex on all this.. I've been hypoglycemic for a long time. I tend to be reactive to corn. If I have it the next day I am really unstable blood sugar wise - or if I've just hd a lot of sugar in the recent past. Stress, too, can be a factor. My husband recognized my symptoms from the start cause he'd had a girlfriend, before, who had to have protein or she'd pretty much go nuts. It never hurts to get things checked out medically, but I read a book a long time ago that said our "normals" weren't really normal so blod tests could show up within normal ranges and we still be hypoglycemic. Pretty much everyone can have reactive hypoglycemia and still be normal, too. I always carry around snacks for when I start dropping. I was showing up in the insulin resistant stages recently till Bex, here, got me motivated to become stricter. I'm not perfect, but a lo better than I was for a while. I was indulging in York Peppermint Patties on regular basis before and they have corn sugar. I lost weight and my cholesterol levels (and blood sugar) are back to normal, now!!! Makes a HUGE difference.

Jeanie #45245 11/17/08 01:14 AM
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Yeah I'll stick to the diet and see how I go. The other thing I dont get is I read like jeanie has written above that hypoglycemics carry sugar snacks with them. How does that help when that's the trigger? I can get anxiety within minutes of eating a sugary snack.

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Yeah I know. I don't understand it either. I think it's a quick fix and can make a person feel better "at the time", but it doesn't last and in the end, the problem isn't being solved, but probably made worse.

I've had the anxiety thing also when eating anything sugary or high in carbs. Same thing. It went away after the diet, but it took a few weeks. I'm glad I figured out the culprit, because it was getting serious.

I still think it was yeast related though. I hope you don't get too much of a die off effect, but at the sametime, if you do, it's a sign things are happening. Die off can take a little while to kick in sometimes too. Or you may not notice much at all.

Bex #45257 11/17/08 10:44 AM
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Well it has been a mixed start... I felt better and worse at the same time if you can figure that. During the midday I kind of felt calm in one sense yet anxious in another. I figure the bad feeling is breaking the sugar addiction and should pass. I'm actually feeling pretty good at the moment. Let's see what tomorrow brings. Did you have the mixed feelings when you started the diet? How long does die off last and what are the symptoms?

freeballin #45266 11/17/08 04:00 PM
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Yes, I have the same thing. Sometimes you don't even know if you're on the right track at first, because there are not always clear indicators. Sometimes there are.

The symptoms can be:

Increased symptoms you have already got
Dizziness/light headed
Feeling drunk
Headache
Weakness/fatigue
exhaustion
nausea
loss of or increase in appetite
cravings can increase for the very things yeast need to flourish
increased anxiety/depression/nervousness
nightmares or strange vivid dreams
feeling cold
moody/irritable
tearfulness/crying spells
increase in cramping (gut for example)
gurgling in the gut
increased itching/thrush (at first)
increase in discharge
rashes
bone tired
aching
unable to think/concentrate properly

These are just examples of what can happen. Some people may simply feel pretty bad, but no real extreme symptoms. The only way they know they're getting better, is simply that they have been on the diet long enough and start to feel better again. Some people experience an increase in symptoms and even some new ones and it can be obvious what's happening.

It can take up to 2 - 6 weeks (or more in some cases) to feel healthier again. The key is not to cheat, which is hard going because it becomes a battle to resist the things yeast are crying out for. Once you get them reduced, the cravings become much less.

If one cheats on their diet, usually there is a relapse and depending on how sick you are, will depend on how long the recovery is.

Make sure you don't go hungry. That's when you may reach for something you shouldn't have. You become much more vulnerable to the cravings. So fill up on the stuff you can have and make sure you do it before you go out to someone's place or go out somewhere for an extended period. I can't tell you how many times I went out without eating enough and wound up at someone's house and cheated on my diet beause I was so hungry, I gave in. Then I relapsed and had to start again.

Bex #45503 11/24/08 11:55 AM
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Day 6 and the diet is going pretty well so far, felt great earlier today and actually managed a work out, first work out i've done in about a month. Still riding a bit of a roller coaster but going well.

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That is a REALLY good sign. If you are noticing any improvement at this point? That is quite early. It takes me many weeks (even up to 8) before I start noticing improvements, even after a small cheat.

Roller coaster is normal. Symptoms often go around and around or all over the place at first until things start to settle and your good days begin to increase and the bad days decrease. May take a few weeks before you really start to see changes.

You get sick of the diet though, but if it takes this to make me feel more human, I'll do it. Because nothing is worse than being a total invalid, which is what I am without it.


Bex #47624 02/20/09 01:26 PM
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Blurred vision is often caused by a parasite infection. Have you done a parasite cleanse lately? It also might be due to wide fluctuation in blood sugar levels.

Cinnamon and chromium might help stabilize blood sugar levels. It is important to give up sugar and alcohol, and eat vegetables instead of fruits. Ginger and cinnamon help decrease cramps. Magnesium will help decrease muscle aches. Molybdenum will help with getting over the feeling of having a constant hangover. Licorice root tea will help improve mood and help with detoxification.


JK98 #47631 02/20/09 06:04 PM
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I had blurred vision with candida and mercury toxicity. It's a pretty common symptom. But it appeared to come on with the addition of braces on my teeth and remained from then on. It went away later when I removed sugar/wheat/gluten/yeast from my diet. Even my asthma lessened substantially.

So even though I still had mercury poisoning, just the dietry changes alone made a big difference to me. And in many other areas also.


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