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Joined: Mar 2008
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Unfortunately, our expert on this topic, who created threads about the definition of evolution, is gone. You can still read the dedicated threads though. Thanks for demonstrating that the bar must be lowered even in regards to the term 'expert'. No element of the English language is safe. Look at any science website and you will see that evolution is the change in heritable traits over time. The usual process driving this is mutation and natural selection, though there are others. Abiogenesis is a separate theory. No I'm not making this up. Yes you really can Google it. ID includes people who accept Darwinism, yet refuse to rule out intelligence altogether. For this refusal, they are labeled "creationists". You are welcome to believe in a 'god' that never did anything or is purely imaginary. Politically, evolutionism is not prepared to expel such persons until the day when the numbers/power structure are secure enough to persecute even these. The only think ID questions unanimously is that abiogenesis took place without any intelligent agent. If the issue was separate, there'd be no need to expel even agnostics who simply refuse to rule out something which cannot scientifically be ruled out. Note that Russ repeats the same contrary claims over and over rather than attempting to actually disprove any of them. See if you can find any evidence anywhere here. This is not accurate. Russ has written several very long posts containing sound arguments. He has done research and provided quotes from evolutionists as well as creationists who are scientists and are qualified to evaluate evolutionism's shortcomings. One wonders how you define "attempting to disprove". I expect physical force such as a stick up 'side the head is the only thing that has a chance, and he can't be faulted for failing to supply you with such. ...not much, anyway. One wonders why you say such things. Everyone knows you've been present and responded to Russ' posts. It is futile to downplay his efforts. I suspect you're trying to see just how much you can get away with.
Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson
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