Hi, I'we noticed lately that i have gotten thiner in my face after amalgam removal. My cheeks and neck is red and blushed too, and the jaw is numb, and the tounge too somewhat... Also it feels like the throat is choaking somewhat now and then... Right now the face feels like it burns from heat, but with no direct pain.

Also from this i get fatigued and my neck can allmost not manage to hold my head up. I also got balance issues (Vertigo), like beein on a ship at sea. But today my head ain't aching, i only experince a very mild pressure on the scull.

I also has an internal pressure on my left chest, and has a little bit shortness of breath. My feet are stil numb and somewhat painful to walk on, but that has bettered over the last 2 weeks now...

I don't have much apetite, but eat anyway, and i am constipated for the most too... I got a good stool today, but that was the first real stool in 1.5 week now i think..

And at the same time, my metabolism and need for food has trippled atleast.
I had a slow metabolism in my grown up life for years now, but now i have the same high metabolism as i had as a child when i had many fillings.

I'm probably forgetting to add more to details here, but that can be done later on..

Anyway what i'm wondering about is, is my now thiner face and jaw due to an autoimmune killing of cells? or is it due to undermetabolism in general?

If it is due to autoimmune cell killings of my facial muscles and tissue, then why was my face fatty and round before my amalgam drillout? It's only now after i was reexposed and retoxed on chlorella due to constipation that my face has thinned down.. So Is it that my face had only a little mercury in it before, enough to let the immune system down prioritize it, and that now due to the retox and new expores, the levels of murcury in my face and jaws was high enough to give it it's immune priority level that is now high enough to let the immune system to take it seriously?

And besides, if that is the case.. Autoimmune facial celldeath, why hasn't the body grown new cells in my face with an 1:1 celldeath : cellbirth ratio?

Is that beacuse the newborne cells in my face is now not clogged so much with mercury as the old cells were? and now the new cells can receive enzyme signals to regulate fat storage more correctly? And that my old facial muscle cells were clogged and bound to mercury in their enzyme pathways that made them regulate fat storage wrongly? So in other words, now my normal genitical facial structure is comming back?

Or is it simply due to lack of food combustion or simply the autoimmune cell killings i mentioned above, or a combination of those two?

I personally think it might be a combination of everything, but i need reflection from other souls to be sure... I need logic confirmation or disconfirmation from you guys, if at all some of you have read and thought as advanced and deep as i have, that is...

I hope so... But i doubt it... Are there anyone here as well read as i am that can comment on this?

And also, that i have fatigue for two days, then i'm allmost totally well from fatigue for two days, then the cycle repeats... Is this simple the immune cycle doing it's microcycling? becuse the grand immune cycle lasts for about a mounth... So i'm thinking smaller sub cycles here... !?

Atleast i get less fatigued for each cycle tha i endure... i guess.. not sure, but i think so... When loaded with illness like this, one tend to miss the bigger picture of betterment over time.. so... I think i get stronger for each cycle...

But the pain in my feet and other areas are more or less the same... even when im in an up or down cycle...

Maybe them areas are downprioritized by the immune system atm...
Maybe the jaw and the head region are more immediate important now as the values are higher for the time beeing...

Finally empty on queries here...

Your thoughts please!?

I have gotten the bowel system somewhat up and running now, but not as effectively as i want it yet... But i hope i can beat that constipation enough to get stronger, and cumulative increase the bowels and increase the strenght to let the immune system fix more mercury probles that again frees up the systems that regulate bowels.
That would result in a cumulate cycle of betterment from both constipation and energy for overall natural body chelation of the mercury..

Anyway, when i get strong enough with 2 or 3 bowels a day and get less fatigued, just by eating well and taking supplements and antioxidants for free mercury radicals and in other words micro chellatin that this really is....
Then i will start reintroducing raw garlic into my diet, and then also take sauna...

Then later as i have cumulative gotten stronger i may decide to try a stronger chellator as algae or DMSA.... But only then...

Sound like a good plan?
Take it slow then build up, and repeat until i can take it to the next level with more effective chealltion agents?

I think so... but your thoughts please?
There aren't any shortcuts as i can't handle strong detox programs atm, are there?

Sounds good?

Hi there Ole,

The same thing happened to me following my last amalgam removals. I was 24 years of age, so it has nothing to do with age or anything like that. I had previously normal fullish cheeks. Following this, I became pale in the face and my cheeks were thinner (almost drawn inwards). I was upset to say the least.

I do not know why it happened, but I assume it has something to do with increased poisoning, not only by the drilling out of amalgam, but also by possible swallowing of any fragments. When the last of them are removed (at least for me), it seems that the suppression that had been there with amalgams, has been released and the full extent of poisoning becomes realised.

So you begin to see and experience the effects of it much more. That's how I saw it anyway (I could be wrong). So now I was seeing the real mask of my extent of poisoning and I looked pretty haggard actually, wretched, thin in the face etc.

There were moments that it improved, but then it would worsen eachtime my body was trying to detox more of it. I'd get the same thin drawn in look. My tongue also became swollen and that with the drawn in cheeks, I had the feeling of mouth constriction (all symptoms of mercury poisoning). The only real way to start to truly recover from this was chelation and ongoing to really start to get this poison out of my tissues/organs, so that true blue health would start to surface again and my drawn in cheeks would fill out more.

I was on a pretty good diet, though at that time I was lucky and only had to give up sugar, wheat/gluten and yeast. I was able to eat fruit, any vegetables, non wheat/gluten grain, and still have milk in my tea. I mainly found that vitamin C (powder with bioflavanoids), selenium (I took it in the form of liquid sodium selenite, though some do better on selenomethoione)- about 150 mcg a day (one drop, or I'd increase it to double). And vitamin E. They were my main help. Though in hindsight, I'd add a few more like zinc, magnesium and iodine etc. and a good overall powder vitamin/mineral mix.

I had hot baths with epsom salts (about a cup of more) to help increase the excretion of metal via the pores. Or sea salt with baking soda (which I think actually worked even better). About a cup or more of both. And also increased exercise on treadmill (walking and if possible incline) and some rebounding inbetween.

Then I started to get onto more heavy duty chelation. That is individual, so what may work for some, may not work as well for you. Some do very well on natural methods like chlorella, garlic, cilantro, high sulfur foods etc. Some have pretty awful reactions and may find Andrew Hall Cutler's protocol the way to go. In the end, I wound up using his because my symptoms were intolerable on just about anything else. But I didin't care much because I just wanted the stuff out either way. His gave symptoms and yes I felt worse when detoxing, but I'm afraid that there is no real escape from symptoms if you wish to get the stored poison out of you.

Oddly enough, my symptoms were easier and more suppressed WITH amalgam in place and my reactions to garlic etc, were minimal. However, after complete removal of amalgam? That's when things really started happening and there was no suppression whatsoever, my body was in full detox mode and very poisoned at that. Though I was very poisoned with amalgams, the symptoms were not as dramatic until post amalgam removal.

Here is my source of reading for the bio chemical cellular relations i was talking about... Please read it and reflect on it to understand what i am talking about above..
If you allready hasn't enough experience on these kind of things..
It explains alot of why's about chelating and about mercury bindings to sulphur and proteins.. Why's about why chellation and for example garlic chellation works, and why one gets fatigued and so on.. as i wrote about above...

Here it is: (The most advanced info i'we come across till now)

http://tuberose.com/Sulphur_and_Mercury.html

And yeah.. i forgot to mention that garlic is made of sulphur, mostly...

So there is that connection... Eat raw garlic and chew if your stong enough endocrinicly and if your stomach can handle it's light burns... Esophagus too..
Be careful with garlic in large quantities for that matter. But garlic chellates.. thats for sure!!

And many can tollerate it, as can i, but i want to get stronger first to avoid using up my storage of good minerals first.. as those minerals gets depleted when binding mercury.. As you know, the base for every chelation programs is a good deposit of important trace minerals before doing the actual chelating...

You can see why in the sulphur and mercury connection link above...

Besides, garlic also kills bacteries, viruses and fungi, so that infact helps slow down or stoping the mercury to methylmercury conversion done by bacteries.

But also adding to that, the garlic may also kill of good gut bactery cultures... I don't quite know.. but i'm guessing that garlic doesn't see any difference of good or bad bacteria.. Garlic is not alive and intelligent, now is it? Selective garlic that only kills bad germs?? Naaaah!

So therefor i would sugest drinking cultured milk or youghurt to resupply the stomach with good germs while doing stomach based chellation as with garlic or chlorella!

This to avoid getting fatigued from an undereffective gut due to less or no good germ culture!

I'm infact building my stomach in that way now to increase my stools and metabolism, but i'm not chelating yet as you know.. Not with external chellators anyway besides my body's own natural chelation...

I wish for some waterfilters connected in serial, and an own vegetable garden with electrolyze cleaned dirt, and filtered airsupply, to eat me well and into shape from!!

Infact i wish for my own bio dome to grow my food in!!!

The no go key..... Only MONEY!!!!!!

Seriously...

Those with the lesser income or no income at all, gets it worst!!

It's like they are trying to rid the world of the poorest in an innatural way.. i.e.. with economics... Bacause.. for those of you who hasn't figured out what money really is yet... It is controll.... not greed.... it's controll!!

So the key to getting well is manyfolded... It's first knowledge, then belief, then money to do the actual detox and experimentation, and also to make that experimentation as it may be seen as, forums such as this is the paramount thing!
Because here we can learn from each others, what is helping, and what may be dangerous, chelators regarded... etc...

Everyone has diffrent tollerance levels on chellation load on the body and the brain, and some can handle some chealtors while others can not...

This is due to what level of mercury poisoning you are at i belive, and also where you currently have your mercury stored.. i.e where in your body your mercury burden currently is located...

Also ofcourse that some people can't metabolize things like chlorella effectively or at all..


Think about it...


I'm good in my personal science and research, but I'm not God, so i need your insight on all of this i have written here.. We, the good souls have to stick together!!! Now as, and always!

So, start thinking now, til your head explodes... And let me know.. but please don't insult me by saying, slow down bro.. you're reading too much...

There can never be too much knowledge between ones ears! Never!

And besides the fact to you are here, reading this.. only means you have studied hard too, infact you have probably studied so hard that other and lower souls (Mind lazy people) would say that YOU have read too much!

(I'm not calling people on lower knowledge levels than mine, mind lazy)

I call those that rely on tv for "facts" mind lazy... But that's none of you guys!

Well...

We all are one diffrent knowledge levels.. so please don't do the same as those who may have told you that you read too much, and imply that i have read too much, if i know more than you currently do..

But for those above my level... You guys are desperately sought by me..
Everyone else too ofcouse, because by the fact that you are here, and now are reading this.. that means you too are a great soul with both potensial and the will to live well and last but not least, the will to LIVE FREE!!!!!!!

Thanks Ole. The bible says Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" so even God expects us to keep searching, keep learning (keep praying too).

Yeah I see the sulfur connection and necessity too. I think people shy away from it when they are severely poisoned because of the symptoms. But mercury uses up sulfur and replacing sulfur of course mobilises/displaces mercury. We are meant to replace that in which mercury depletes, but in doing so, yes it can cause symptoms. Perhaps take it slow, take it easy and gradually do it as one is able. I used to get very very sick from sulfur foods when I was at my peak in symptoms after amalgam removal. The mercury was very easily disturbed and mobilised. OVerdoing it maybe risky yes, but not doing it at all and perhaps things just remain almost stagnant.

I did whatever it took and I knew that symptoms meant something was happening and I tended to push things at times to the limit. But in doing so, I also felt that there was an improvement at the other side, so I kept on. However, if anything caused extreme and risky symptoms (that could have had me put in psyche care, I realised this was not ok and to back off).

Garlic is powerful stuff, both with candida and mercury. I found that out many times. I do badly on supplement garlic, but not so bad on food garlic. I try and keep enough sulfur in me, as I know it's necessary. I eat enough free range eggs also.

It sounds like you got a good plan anyway and have obviously done much research yourself. But yeah so much sadly comes down to money, but if it's a saving in the long run? then it can be worth the initial pocket pain sometimes.

Think about this for a moment... Even we all on this forum are loaded with and reduced by merucy, we're still eons ahead of the general population in IQ and EQ!

Think how "dangerously" to "them", smart we would have been if we were not poisoned?!!! and robbed of ourselves's full potensial!

We, the seekers of truth, healing, natural healing, good health, and knowledge IS supperior!

Let us only hope that the early developemental damages to our organisms isn't yet irreversible to a larger degree, than that we could regain our ~fully knowhow capacity and vitality!

And then start to live our lives as they was ment to!
Love, people, families, and the ultimate knowledge of the universe and of mankind and God in general!

Let us retake what was STOLEN from us!!!

Btw, i have one filling left, and also some dental cheating to resolve (hidden amalgam), the bastard thought he could fool me!

OMG! HEEEEEELP!! I'm not removing the last one in a while... That is partly what i deduced and feared, even if i pulled the sucker out instead of drilling..
This because of the removal of the galvanic magnetic fields in the jaw, and that makes a chaos of mercury mobilization in the body becase of the lack of magnetic fields in the jaw to equiliburumly hold the mercury in place...


HEEELP! As it is not bad enough now? As if not my chlorella trial was bad enough.. I allmost "died"..

I see you're saved by Jesus, btw.... So am I! He is my strengt in all of this.. as allways...

I'm with you completely. It amazes me that the poisoned individuals on here, with their often unrealised potential, are as clear and bright as they are with poisoned organs/tissues/minds. I cannot imagine how we'd all be with an unpoisoned mind and body, able to realise our full potential. It's a pity, but in a way, without going through this, I really wonder whether I'd have been forced to start shedding much of the shallowness I had previously.....makes you wonder. Suffering, as unpleasant as it is, does have some merit sometimes. Though this toxicity to my mind is intolerable and evil. But God can bring good out of such! Even if the victims are not to blame, which we are not.

Yes, when I had my composites redone in cerec porcelain, the mainstream dentist found hidden bits of amalgam leftover. I was very angry. They were missed on panoramic xray too it would seem, as no dentist picked up on that (even biologic). So he removed it. Hasn't made any difference I admit, but it's nice to know it's GONE. And it's made me angry that it wasn't thoroughly removed because the reason why I went in for amalgam removal and told those dentists was to get this stuff out completely. I guess they can miss it a bit, or they hesitate to drill too deeply, and I know some leave some there for that reason. But that is dishonest and lazy in my opinion, since they are being paid for a service.

I hope you get your remaining amalgam problem resolved. Will you have the tooth removed? or will you get replacement materials? Some people get the teeth out if it's too much hassle, as some of us have so much amalgam, or may not have enough biologic dentists to work with or the right materials.

Well, I'm thinking that's what happened to me then Ole, because all hell broke loose following last amalgam removal.

If it's any consolation, I gained help and control of symptoms by small doses of DMSA every 4 hours around the clock. I did a routine of this (about 3 days or more straight) and then took a break for as long as needed 3 days or longer and repeated this.

This really saved alot of my sanity I can tell you when symptoms were at their wildest and craziest. Mobilising it too much with even natural products just increased the insanity, though I realise sulfur is also depleted in mercury, I had to watch the amount i consumed.

So I really recommend Cutler's. I have tried so many other ways, chlorella included and just about went nuts. Yeah it moved metals, but what a cost!

Yes, without God and without the meaning of the Cross, I think I'd have been another suicide victim. Even with Him, at times I was so poisoned and despaired, I could barely see or think straight. I feel for anybody going through such insanity of toxicity.

Take care!

Thankyou Bex, and God bless you!

Are you well these days? have you ~completely chelated successfully?

And btw, i also agree about the right and rightness to use our God given brains!
It's sad to see those typical fundamentalistic christian brothers and sisters avoiding using their heads in such a way as we do..
Atleast they have faith, and that is a good think, but may not be enough.
And one more thing, I haven't thumped the Bible that much to know that verse you shared with me just now....

You just confirmed to me, via the Bible that christianity really approves of using one's God given intellect to the fullest! Something most christian communities disaprove of... You know..

I also read a Bible verse that said something about 3 guys which were handed out talents... or money which was called talents.. i dont quite know.. BUT
The two first guys invested their gifts, and God was pleased with them, but the third and last one saved his for later.. and God asked, why didn't you use your gift which i gave you? Why didn't you invest it to make it grow, and to get more from it?

In other words... Help in the form of self helping.. Help to get up and manage by your self... Not the oposite... Help that never ends...

The first.. was God's gift to those three...
I.e... Pasiveness really is the devils best tool to imprision man!

Thankyou, you too take care!

But are you free of this burden now?

I don't know if i can do the Cuttler protocol... I need rest, maybe later ofcourse..
My God, My God...

And one more thing... i have read much of your postings on this forum, and i have the greatest respect for you, and now after your postings on my thread, i have even more respect for you!

God bless!

Heh, i allways say dumbness kills.. i guess i were right all along.. i know i was, but now its confirmed from more than one angle!

It really helps a loner soul to reflect on knowledge, logic, and faith with their fellow souls!

You're welcome Ole and God bless you too. I am hanging in there these days. My amalgam toxicity affected me most of my life and I took years to detox the stuff out of my system. I was doing very well after that, almost completely healed, until other things went wrong. A viral infection, but what came after that appeared to have been following wisdom tooth removal/other dental work (non amalgam related, I had them removed many years previously). Since that, life became somewhat of a nightmare. It's possible that it's infection related (multiple) - also cavitation (jaw infection) from the dental work. Hard to say, pockets of bacteria can occur after the deadening of teeth/wrong removals etc and are hard to locate and can sit and pretty much poison systemically from a localised site. Those with strong immune systems, may battle fine and never get much of an issue. But any challenge or other problem, can set a person up to becoming chronically ill from these things. I suspect that in my case.

I was also told that my replacement materials were not very biocompatible (at least some), but never noticed an issue to be honest. It was all mercury related at that time and replacing my materials hasn't made any difference, but at least it's one possible problem out of the way and allows me to concentrate on the other stuff that might be wrong. AT this time, I can't do much, I"m financially a bit tight and still paying off the dental work. WEnt from composites to cerec porcelain.

I find that a good strict basic diet has at least helped me, though it's not a cure. The underlying problem needs to be dealt with, but that's easier said than done, since it's not diagnosed and seems hidden.



I'm a fundamentalist! lol. But I totally agree with you regarding using our God given brains, which is what they are there for. I think faith increases also with the right kind of knowledge. Sometimes we can go down wrong paths, but at the sametime, in doing so, we may find out the hard way and return even stronger than before. I've gone down a few (occultism also). The only cure was Christ. I found that out the hard way too. The more you find out, the more you realise there is to know. Increase in knowledge for me, has lead to a further realisation of what I don't know and how learning never stops lol.

Well, I would never have considered myself a bible basher, but I'm not ashamed of the word. I give my opinion. I don't force it down people's throats, but I dont like to keep in pocketed as though it's something to be ashamed of, because Christ said "Blessed is he who is not ashamed of Me" . I maybe more open on here about it, but in reality? I'm not and tend to keep too quiet about my faith, for fear of annoying other people, which really is a bit cowardly I think. I am a shy person too. But I quietly but firmly will certainly speak up if the opportunity arises and I'm asked. I'm not always popular for it though



I've learned more from Christ and those emulating him than from anybody and anything else in my life. I have also learned that I have had to get tougher and start making active changes in my own life, my diet etc in order to bring about any changes that I expected God to do at my bidding. If God did that, i wonder if we would ever learn and put into practise helping others? I think there is much to be said for a community of suffering souls supporting and helping eachother. I don't despise the Cross either, I think there is value in it, but there is value in learning from it too.

If a person is so ill they are bedridden, yet still hoping and trying for answers, I consider them pretty heroic. Those that can do more, should do more. I've been in many of these situations. Sometimes I was so ill, I could only lie down and had to have food brought into me. Some days I could get up and I did get up. Sometimes for a person, just getting up the next day and facing things is heroic.

Well, I "think" i'm mostly free of the mercury, though I was re-exposed recently from visiting dental offices for cleaning etc (mercury vapor contaminates every dental office quite substantially). Due to my immune system challenges, I become poisoned now by office vapor. So I'm struggling with a few things at this time.

But before I had the infections/virus? Yes, I was healing very well from mercury detox, but it did take a few years. Depends how poisoned you are.

I can understand your feelings about the cutler protocol, but if you do ever wish to try it, just take low doses and try for only a few days. If you do not like where it's going? You can always stop! No detox is easy, but I figure the less mercury the better and then you start healing and getting stronger.

Thanks so much for the compliments Ole Means a lot to me. I've been on this forum now for about 2 years and a half. Amazing eh? I cannot believe it's been that long. It only seems like about a year. Time goes fast for sure.

Bex!

I was just wondering if you were boy or girl? Nothing special, just wanted to know how to refere to you, he or she?... hehehe

Besides i got my endocrine system going again, and am feeling generally much better! I take multivitamines every other day, and D vitamines each day. I also drink Pro biotica milk, and ordinary highfat but pasteurized milk too.. I allways drank highfat milk anyway, but the probiotics has really helped these days!

My facial and larynx tissue including my tounge feels strange these days too.. as if i have gotten brand new tissue in my mouth.. I think i had an autoimmune cleanup of old mercury infested cells, and gotten them replaced with new ones. Because now i can even taste the shitty taste of PROCESSED FOODS much better than before! And i also got this cool chilling down my throat at times, like running cold water down my throat...
I think it indicates new cell linings in my throat.

Am feeling generally much better anyway!

Headaces has greatly diminshed too, and i have also gotten less vertigo problems!

All this just from eating right and homecoocked and often, and from getting enough quality sleep (earplugs). No more insomnia for me... No more fatigue for me neither!

God and I will prevail..... All other good souls too!

Amen!

Hi Ole,

I'm a girl But some have thought I was male lol. I don't mind, it's easy enough to mistake that on here! I gather you're female? You come across female to me, but I've been wrong before and no offense if you're not!

So glad you're feeling better! I too have to stick to good healthy foods, but my diet is also heavily restricted or I wouldn't cope. I can only eat meats, eggs (free range), low carbohydrate vegetables, acidophilus sugar free yoghurt, almonds/brazil nuts, herbal tea (black tea I get away with too) and animal fats/butter, extra virgin olive oil, mercury free fish oil.

I have to totally avoid fruit, high carbohydrate veges (e.g. potatoes, corn etc), grains (even non gluten), honey/sugar and all foods that contain either, coffee, milk/cream etc etc.

Any deviation off this results in being much worse and that's saying something considering I'm not so great anyway.

I am trying to figure out whether flaxseed oil has been causing problems or not. I'm not certain as yet, since my condition is unpredictable at the best of times. But I've ditched it for now. It seems that this oil can cause some issues and may not be the best thing to consume. It's given high praise, but there is a darker side to it apparenty and it can both stimulate/suppress immunity in it's action inside the body....

It's hard to know whose word to trust sometimes though.

Take care!

Ehm... Female..... No... Am i that gayish in my writings? Heh....

Hmm.. Do you attribute high inteligence to females?
I do generally not, but i wish there were more smart females ofcourse..
No offence as you seem to be one of the smart ones! (The few)

No offence to the rest of you girls... Maybe it's biased as there are dumb guys too, but i think that female dumbness may be more visible in society in general... Call me a hammer if i'm wrong....

It's anyway nice to see that girls can be smart too!

Ps.. I don't want this to label me as a woman hater on this forum, bacuse i'm NOT! I only dislike dumb people... both sexes...


Too bad about your strict diet btw, but i guess if you have to, then you have to...

Funny with me... i get headaces and pains from the multivitamines, and when i cant stand it anymore i eat REFINED SUGER and my head clears up....
Totally upside down huh?.... Sugar is brainfuel, but also candida fuel...
To be honest i dont give a crap about candida flares if i even have candida that is... I have to power up my thinking organ! And sugar does the trick...

I know....

Flaxseed oil.. hmmm i dont even know what it is... but an elimination diet... sigh..... takes time... time frame and symptom testing... patience...
sigh...

And about trust... yeah I KNOW! Too much misinformation.. and or... individual diffrences in disease picture (holisticly)...

Sigh, i allmost regret my last post... I could always delete it, but i won't.
It can be so easily misunderstood by some...

Anyway i allmost with 90% certainty figured you were a girl... (Your profile, interests)
Nah nah nah nah naaaah naaaah.. I was right about you... you were wrong about me!
LOL!

Heh... Well.. Anyway as i said before on this thread.. I have the greatest respect for you! For who you are... on this forum.. as i dont know you in person..

The case is, i have met so few really smart females in my life, that i allmost don't belive they exist anymore. Many of those i have met who have said they were smart or that they look smart at first.. infact was shown to me over time that they really weren't.... So......

Oh forget it...

Well.. so far i have only met one supersmart female in person... and she is a healer!

Sigh.. forget it...


We want more smart girls!!!!
period.

Now i regret even that last post above too...

Those posts says a lot about me as a person...
Row row row.......

Well i say what i say... some people are bound to hate me either for what i say or from what i otherwise say... so...

I'm me... and i want to network with other smart souls so that i don't have to feel so damned alone amongst those "infant" souls that mostly surround me (adults, irresponsible ignorant people)...
Girls prefered... as i'm straight...

I'm like those girls that mostly want to hang out with boys... but only the oposite..

Darn... im sinking more and more into the quicksand of personality exposure here..

For those who wonder, i'm 31yrs this month... male...
Bottom line is.. I get real happy when i see there are smart girls too!!!

And i also hope you find your answers with the elimination of that oil..

I wish you the best!

It's funny heh, that you have to use the internet to find other people of your own callibre that you normally don't find in your local community!

The net unites people that don't normally see each others in real life!
I also want to add to all of this.. that i have seen others on this forum that are of a higher inteligence too (Females), even though poisoned as most of us...

Maybe my old firm belief that the male sex is supperior in thinking is wrong, due to the masses in local communities of ordinary woman that show no interrest to high reasoning and curiosity.... hmm.. I Hope so.. it looks that way..

Because forums such as this... shows there are girls with high thinking capacity!
Not just one, but many, if not most!



Off topic here, but yeah.. This is very important to me!

All my life i have been surrounded by "ordinary" souls (real life)... and i'm fed up.

Online, i'm experincing a world where both males and females are as smart as me..
(Narcisitic?) No.... But i know what i'm good for.. thats a diffrence!

Anyway that is a huge comfort and compensation for my loneliness, bacuse i'm loney because i'm usually surounded by lower souls.... if i may say so... (both sexes)

Only one who fills my need where theres lack is Jesus!
But it also helps to know that i'm not alone to be enlightened in this world amongst other people! Even though we are spread across the globe!

Finale....

Heh.. you thought me to be female Bex... heheh.. it must have been my softer side that showed.... hehehehe


Well IM MALE... NOT GAY... And i can proove it by testifying that i hate watching drama movies!


LOL..

lol, not at all. I can't tell you how many times I've been mistaken for a guy.....You're intelligent, but expressive. I think I'll quit relying on my gender guesses, it seems Im pretty hopeless unless the name is obvious.

And ahhh thanks for the compliment regarding the dumbness! I think years of suffering/illness and challenges force a person to read and learn and gain a bit more knowledge. Shedding a bit of shallowness helps too from it. Though I'd not recommend going through this!



If sugar works for you and you handle it in bits when you feel the need for it, you may get away with it just fine. I had a time when I did just fine on fruit/honey etc. I was very lucky I could handle high carbs then but never other forms of sugar. Now of course it's worse and I have to restrict high carbs of any kind. I've adjusted to my circumstances. I don't like it, nor do I feel it's natural, but it's the only thing that keeps me going at this point and it works.

My first experience with giving up my sugar, wheat/gluten and yeast intake was unpleasant to say the least. The detox symptoms lasted 3 weeks if I recall, and part of that was severe headaches and crying spells, but well worth it once they cleared up. Much of the depression/anxiety had lifted after it and at that stage, I felt like a new person (almost aside from my still existing amalgams at that time). Many things improved.

Flaxseed oil is a polyunsaturated oil extracted from flaxseed that many people take for it's essential fatty acids (omega). Promoted for health, but it seems there are drawbacks and I'm not willing to risk it anymore. I have fish oil, that'll do (mercury free of course). I do well on natural animal fats mostly anyway. Olive oil is good though.

Hmm.. funny this thing about diet... not really.. but about sugars... I allways thought of ADHD for instance as a bullshit disease and that it was the only excuse to lessen sugars from processed foods... You now.. the trend today. sugarfree this, and sugarfree that... gov regulated....

But now a days i also know about for instance.. candida... but i also know that the brain and other muscles need sugarfuel too.. hmmm......

Hmmm.. maybe my lack of sugar isn't my brain slumbering from lack of fuel.. but maybe it's candida die off?.. I don't think so.. but i know about that possiblility...

I swear to sugar! still do...

I also eat fishoil btw... vitamine D...


Heh.. and yeah... You attributed me to be expressive... Hey thanks!
I'we allways been accused of talking to much.. and in too much detail...
Most people's heads tend to explode when communicating too much detail...

Expressive.... heh... thanks! I like that.

Ole we have a LOT in common. I think both of us have extremely fatigued adrenal glands and/or an under performing pituitary (secondary adrenal fatigue). I am starting to think my pituitary is a lot worse off than I originally thought.

I also feel better when I eat a little bit of sugar. I think I have hypoglycemia issues. Usually I get a headache and if I eat a piece of fruit, I instantly feel better.

Aww.. i don't want to go to bed... But i'we been up for 12hrs now, and im tired..
Am scared of getting fatigued again... Most unpleasant thing having your body weighed down by bricks.. especially in the neck, and when the jaws, tounge, and throat starts chocking from fatigue... My filosophy is to go to bed long before the energy levels fall to this level... Anyway.. since i got my endocrine sys going again the worst of those symptoms are gone.... the worst.... I'm getting better i think... stronger... And only has a mild pressure on the scull now... And when the down's come.. it's slight milder than last down period, each time....

But vertigo persists... but even that, somewhat milder each time its at its worst...
The strange thing is.. i have pains or numbnesses on the right side of my scull and ear area.. Also in the right side of my body... And the left side, both brain and body feels ok... I don't even feel em... they just are fine...

And the case is... The right side of my jaw is now officialy mercury free, i.e there are a few patches left with hidden and visible amalgam... but no complete fillings...
The left side still has one filling...

So can this be the lack of magnetic equliburum on the right side that plays on the mercury to manifest immuno reactions on that side of me?

I think so.. but cant be sure... but it seems right..

My main symptom is dizziness and low blood pressure. When I get the "white outs", my whole body feels heavy and I begin to shutdown. My ears get clogged and my limbs feel heavy. I did faint one time at an amusement park and almost died. My friend and I were waiting in line for a ride when suddenly I felt hot, sweaty and just slammed down into the concrete. No one knew what to do and I could barely see or hear what was going on around me. Eventually I came to and walked myself to the first aid station. Stupid people these days don't even get help when someone needs it. My blood pressure was 60-40! I passed out again and woke up thinking I had only slept for 15 minutes. The woman said I was knocked out for more than 3 hours.

I've been suffering from this for about 7 years now and I am sick of it. No one understands how it feels to have your heart rate reaching 150bpm on a daily basis simply from bending down to put your shoes on. Today is a REALLY bad day for me. I am raging inside.

Hmm... you mean under oxiginated blood? hypoglycemia?
I haven't read much into that yet.. But i stubmled across it a few hours ago while reading.... as usual...

Hmm...... I'm fed up.... I just want my life back.. to be full... Just from eating right... Chelating the natural way... I'we done that before...
When some of my teeth with amalgams in them cracked and the amalgam fell out.. and i started unknowingly and coinsidently to become garlic enthusiastic.. I felt better and better over ther years, until now that i chose to remove the remaining fillings at the dentist's office...

Time.... i'm 30.. and the clock is ticking... time...
I only hope this is just temporary drillout symptoms for me...
Give it a cpl of moths then i'm up and runing again....

I hope so...

These headaces i havent had since i were in youth... And back then i thought they were normal.... "Every one has headaces"...
I also had the feeling of a sharp needle suddenly pushing into my head, top centre... and down.. in an instant, lasting only for 1 sec.... now and then... but not since i grew up.... and not now... but the ordinary headaces are back....

I think why i was better before drillout in my adult years, was due to the fractured teeth / reduction of daily amalgam doses, and due to mercury's half life in my body.. i.e my stored levels had dropped over the years...

Now.... do i have to wait another 20yrs to regain what i had before drillout?!

NO!!!
But will i try heavy duty chelators?? DMSA?? NO!! i don't think so...
Not if i don't have to....

Now will i increase my raw squashed garlic intace if i can now handle it as before? YES!! And have more saunas... And eat right, and more often!

I only hope this is just for a couple of months more... atleast the worst of it...

OMG Birdlady!

Im at lack of words...

I can only adivice to eat more frequent, have good stools, take probiotics... as i attribute fatigue to under nourishment and constipation, i just built myself up this last week.

I have to eat all the time.. my metabolism has increased due to this new load on my body...

So i assume you are or have been constipated too?
Eat girl.. eat foods that you know agree with you...
Eat fatty and old fashioned foods..

Also stick your head out the window as i do when this comes...
Thankfully it doesnt get so bad anymore... after i took care of that constipation..
The body needs fuel... i.e bowel movements...

I don't know really what is worse... the detox symptoms i had from chlorella (3grams) or fatigue..... i guess fatigue is better, but still unpleasant as the detox reactions had both fatigue and brainfog with more....

3hrs out.... om my.... Live girl! Live! Fight!!!
I'm allways afraid of coma when this is at its worst... instinctively... but i dont really think i'm going to die from fatigue....

I dont want to think that way....

Nah.......


If we eat right, we get better!

But i can understand you are pissed.. as am i now and then!
Pissed at our blue bloded elite poison masters!!!


We will prevail! With our knowledge seeking for truth and betterment, and with Jesus as our copilot and motivator!

But by dizzness, Birdlady.. do you mean Dizziness or Vertigo??

I will describe what im experiencing now mostly.... as vertigo...
I think my right inner ear is in natural immuno detox mode...
As all of my right body side seems burdened at the time...

Btw.. my scalp psoriasis has exploded since my last drillout too...
I think that the scalp psoriasis really is, the heavy metals trying to get out of the scull in turbo mode thru the skin and scullbone... sort of a vent or valve..... the skin detox pathway....

I also wonder if saunas can safely or at all detox the brain? as a shortcut to avoid cillantro or ALA.... I mean.. to use saunas as a first step in detox..

I dont know if i can handle it yet.... I was about to go for a sauna last week, but i had jitters.. and pulled out...

I didn't handle saunas well as a child when my mouth were full of amalgams...
But as a grown up before drillout i handled saunas well...

Now i dont know...

But think about this...

What about the people in the 1970's that didn't even know about the amalgam problem, but they also had amalgams... and they also took saunas....

They didn't die!? Now did they?... Anyway im still cautious.. maybe too cautious?
Logicaly it cant hurt.... but anxiety to do more harm.... are present...
Atleast before i am certain that i am strong enough.... Endocrinicly and with less headaces....


Have you tried saunas? Lower bench? low temps? for a short time?
They also say it can be dangerous if you have low blood oxygen... as you said you have.... and that B vitamins can help.... but.... Really i dont like to put so much artificial vitamins into my system... Artificial supplements scare me somewhat, as they sometimes gives me headaces.... mostly... and theire not natural!

And they say you have to take excess doses of vitamins before and after a real sauna detox session... I.e a heavy duty serious and focused sauna detox...

But i want to try it slow and carefully with only normal trace minerals...
Only to refill my body with water...

But im affraid i will sweat out all my good traceminerals and collapse into fatigue again if i dont follow the serious vitamin program that they say you have to use while sauna detoxing....

So.... I will do everything to avoid fatigue... but....
I want to try the sauna....

i mean.. as i said.. people unknowingly used the saunas in past decades without dying too.... So......

Ugh.....

Btw.. anyone here had any experience with ALA? or ALA alone? or ALA with real raw garlic?

Early stage detox or later stage detox?

Retoxing with it? Bad chelation symptoms? Backfires?

Hmm.. Birdlady.. what you described when getting fatigued is what i experienced at my worst... which is getting better and better for each down period now, after i restarted my endocrine system and am watching myself that i never go hungry for a second..

Sigh.. its past my bed time... But i havent gotten as much out of this day as i had wished for.... so...

I atleast am immagining myself to get better for every up/down cycle i endure..
And my GF think she observes that too.. But we cant be sure in the short run yet...
But think we see betterment... I can only be sure when seeing it at a distant (in time)...

As i say.. i have high hopes that this is only normal temporary symptoms after drillout. You know, you hear about some poeple getting real ill from drillouts...
But do you ever hear about how they got well?
Hmmm....

It's assumed they got well over time.... Maybe because people forget about them and continue to live their own lives? Are those people that did unprotected drillouts in the past and got ill, are they well these days? or just forgotten, and still ill?

People........ They talk... watch news.. hear stories about other people... then forget... then they never talk about it more... And you can only assume those souls that was talked about, them souls that were ill.. is now well!?

But is assumptions right? in that way?
I had protected drillouts, both teeth... but i also drilled alittle without protection after i found out the dentist tried to cheat me.. But that drilling was only in a few tiny fragments....

So what about those people who drilled out 3-4-5 teeth at the same visit in the past.. and without protection?

They lived.... but....

I cant really be that poisoned compared to them? now can i?
Is my illness now only temporary and normal for some time after drillout?

I logicly hope and think it is!


But for you Birdlady?... hmm... I'we read some of your posts.. but... What was your case?

I had to regulate myself. I didn't get sugar free in anything, until I ditched the processed foods, quit adding sugar to cereals and other foods and make a complete break. Considering what I was like before and after, the exclusion of sugar, wheat/gluten and yeast made a significant difference. But yeah, getting worse from exclusion isn't fun, but it was worth it. Headaches can be a biggy as yeast dies of and toxins circulate as they come out. Usually they're in the temple areas (they were with me). I was very ill initially. It was like watching someone on drug detox. But worth it! The change was pretty dramatic once the die off/detox was over.

There are enough energy apparently in protein and fats, and I can vouch for that. I found sugar foods/high carbs seemed to lower my resistence, zap my energy in the long term both by doing that, plus feeding the yeast. I'd never have bought into this if it hadn't have happened to me I don't think. Considering I ate any kind of junk I wanted throughout my entire childhood. Drank coke daily too. Wound up with a gum disease by age 11 too. But the real issues began in the teens. I don't think my high sugar diet helped me at all.

If I had not done those exclusions and ate healthy foods, I hate to imagine. I was bloated up with toxins, miserable and suicidal. So ill was I, that no amount of psychological analysing or antidepressant medicating made a difference. Yet diet did.

Some with mercury or other illnesses, may not have quite the issues I had or the necessity to make such changes. Thank God for those doctors with an interest in alternative health, rather than the ones simply told me it was psychological, put me on medication and sent me to psychotherapists.

I wish I could consume sugar! I love it like anybody! And I have an appetite like a horse when I get going and sugar was always my favourite. What a pity it didn't like me as much

Funnily enough, it is often not so much of an issue once poisons like amalgam are removed or whatever other underlying condition is going on. I found the healthier I got, the more cheating on my diet I'd tolerate. But the problem was never completely resolved, so usually I had to get back on and stay 'relatively' strict at that time.

Now it's more infection/viral related and much worse. So yeah, cheats means many weeks of recovery! Not worth it.



you're welcome. I enjoy discussing and tossing things around! Depends on the topic.

I'm a friend of Jesus, but i still drink.. And i'm thirsty for an ale or a brandy, but i don't dare with this loaded head..... I'm drunk enough as i am from the (f word) mercury in my scull...

I dont let doctrine run my christian life... i belive drinking isnt a sin to God, but a sin to oneself, as oneselves body is God's temple... but i only think of it as a sin against self if in excess, or in abuse.. as in excess use..

But i want that brandy or whiskey sip right now... And i also wish i could have a cigarette or a cigar without getting shortness of breath...

IT'S SO UNFAIR!

I had to give up smoking some years ago!
I use smokeless swedish Snus... But thats not the same...

I want a sip of whisky now... When will my head get well enough to do that again...

Sigh.....


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF word....


Angry YES!!

Hmm Bex.. What about raw garlic for those viral and infectious issues?

And what do you mean by "worse"?

Ahh... im pressuring myself.... But i had lots of sleep before today and lots of food today too...
Its past bedtime.... Vertigo increased somewhat again...

I think this is my vitamin intake today... i only take vitamins every other day. and when i take em i get more like this....

Hungry again too... maybe some food would help again....

Im trying to avoid fatigue.... but want to stay up and talk here, and maybe read some more too... watch some tv....

But its 1:14 in the morning here now... and my body has had enough i think...


sigh...
double sigh...
tripple sigh...

I used to do 2-3days and nights in one go before this.... (all nighters)
Now i have to watch myself after half a day to avoid fatigue...

Unpleasant... right Birdlady?!

I used to have friday night as my cheat night and smoke night. I kind of got away with it, so long as it was one night a week. But sometimes the recovery wasn't fun!



I observe doctrine and try to apply it to my life, as I believe it's the inspired word of God.

Like yourself, I don't believe having a drink to be a sin, (I'm certain Jesus drank occassionally also - not in excess). As you said, it's the use/abuse of it.

Funnily enough, when my mother (who has a mouth packed full of amalgam) has a drink, she can barely cope! She got worse when gold was added. I wonder how much mercury sensitises a person and causes them to become quite intolerant to many things.

It's a bugger isn't it? Like yourself, I too would like to enjoy a little of that occassionally. Including sweet foods, cakes, chocolate etc.

PS, yep I've tried garlic (raw or cooked). It's "ok", but not all that helpful. I have noticed what I thought seemed to be a bit of metal mobilisation after taking it though.....not certain yet, may try it again later and see if the same thing occurs. That plus exercise!

You should find as you become further detoxed in mercury, that these annoying problems that prevent you from enjoying the odd smoke/drink may lessen or even disappear....it depends on how poisoned you are, how detoxed you get and whether there is any long term repurcussions from the years of mercury. Some may not be able to fully indulge again. I found even when detoxed, I still had to be "somewhat" careful, but nothing compared to what I had been and I was still healing at that time anyway.

Until the infection/s. That's where the immune system when right down hill, worse even than with amalgam. Which is why the diet side of things has had to be far more restricted. It works relatively well and at this time, that's good enough for me. I'm looking at getting possible cavitations cleaned out in case that's a contributing factor, but financially cannot afford that right now and have just had extensive dental work with getting composites replaced with cerec porcelain. I did this for my long term future. Hopefully having these materials means they'll last much longer and I won't have to go back to a dentist and breath in their mercury vapors in their office and get myself sick again and again. I'm tired of it.

I went in for a clean not long ago and got worse in health again. They all drill amalgam almost daily I guess. So hate to think how much vapor is present and hanging around their office. Being so sensitive, I don't tend to cope or excete it readily.

So since I've had the dental work, I've been a bit worse and not rushing to go into having any further dental work done at all at this time. I think further local anaesthetic might really push things over the edge at the moment, plus paying off the bill

Cheers!

Well Bex, I have to comment on your last post tomorrow, i read it, but have to go to bed now at 2:12am, before the chest pain gets worse.... head got better after some food.. so now i have to use the window of opportunity to get some rest...

Will be back to morrow.. God permitting!

God bless us All!

Good night..

Hi Ole,

No rush. Take care! and use that opportunity whilst you can.

God bless you too.

Ole I would buy Dr. Cutler's book so you can understand where he is coming from. You can't detox mercury with natural foods. It is not safe.

Garlic isn't a mercury chelator. All it will do is stir it up in your body, but not allow it to be excreted. You will have increased symptoms and could actually get permanently worse. Also if you experience a lot of symptoms with garlic it could in fact be yeast die off or parasite die off and NOT mercury.

With the DMSA it was designed to be used in children for lead poisoning. It has the right molecular composition to grab onto mercury without letting go (2 or more Thiol groups). Chlorella and cilantro do not have the necessary molecular structure(1 Thiol group) to remove mercury from the body. When these two pick up mercury there is a greater chance of it being dropped off into another part of the body. This can all be read on pages 199-204 in Dr. Cutler's book.

I edited that part in because I was concerned about what you said about DMSA and garlic. I wouldn't trust garlic to chelate mercury.

I have always called it dizziness. I'm not even sure what vertigo is! haha I am unable to drink alcohol at all. It makes me ill within 3 sips. Just the smell of it gets me going and it's hard to explain to friends why you don't drink. They think you are weird or something.

Just the other day I had a tiny drink of kahlua and chai. The rest of my night was ruined. The heart palpitations started. The blood pressure fell and the heaviness in my body started. My body can't metabolize it.

My sugar intake is pretty limited. I gave up chocolate and most sugary foods are full of bad ingredients. I've cut high fructose corn syrup, msg, all artificial sweeteners and GMO foods out. This is a lot harder than you'd think. We now shop exclusively at Whole Foods because the stores around here are terrible. You can't eat out, can't drink American beer, you can't really do anything sociably without worrying about what's in the food. Getting a cup of coffee is a problem because of fluoridation. Diet is very important. If I was still eating McDonald's I'd be much worse off.

My one uncle told us we were too skinny and that we needed to start eating anything that tastes good because that's what he does...Apparently telling someone they are "too skinny" (normal weight) in front of the whole family is okay. But telling them they are too fat is bad. I HATE family gatherings.

You also asked about constipation and I've never had that problem. All though according to some natural health doctors they say you should be going 4-5 times a day and I definitely don't go that much. I don't eat enough food to go that much...LOL I only eat about 1200 calories a day and I STILL GAIN WEIGH....GRRR.

Hi Birdlady,

Being a person that has been both underweight and overweight at different times of my life, I now understand how it feels for either side. I am actually a very average person in weight and frame and height.

But due to toxicity and diet/appetite, even an average frame can carry an unstable weight status. Though I was never overweight most of my life, I became so later on via cravings for foods that didn't stop and excessive eating (of the wrong foods) and bloated through sheer toxicity in the tissues.

I can say that the only time I've been able to stabilise my weight more is the diet I am on now. I am neither too big, nor too small. I thank the proteins and fats for that, because my diet is so restrictive, that I would be underweight if it were not for the extra.

I have been overweight and underweight at different times when suffering bad candida and toxicity. It can rob you of an appetite and cause you to become toxic and skinny, OR can create an excessive appetite and cravings causing overweight, and bloat. Either way, both of those weight issues can be improved or even resolved with a healthy nutritious diet (for me anyway). Anything that reduces toxicity and improves health, should eventually (logically) start balancing out weight and a person's appetite should also become more normalised, rather than either no appetite or absolutely excessive.

When first starting a candida diet, the cravings can increase and a person can feel very hungry for a temporary period of time. The person may even lose MORE weight or GAIN more temporarily as the body starts dealing with the toxins. It is trying but worth it.

WEight is actually the LEAST of a person's issues (unless they are morbidly and dangerous obese or anorexic). Because I found that if I concentrated souly on health and getting nutrient intake and absorption by excluding the bad and taking onboard the good, things do seem to stabilise eventually. It can take time though.

I wouldn't take any notice birdlady of people's comments like that. I've gone from being called "Porky" to "You look like a pull-through for a slug gun". Seriously, you can't win sometimes. Just focus on your health, on healing and getting these toxins out of you. Good for you that you're concentrating on the diet more! And yeah, alcohol is bad for me too. I react badly to it and get drunk pretty easily too. Though that is probably because I react badly to it and hence don't drink So if I do have an occassion when I drink, I'm blotto pretty quick.

I'm sorry girls, i'm pretty empty at the moment, but Birdlady... Don't pay attention to those who "mock" your bodily figure!

Don't pay attention to no bullshit from none whatsoever! Easier said than done sometimes, but we all can do it if we really want to tell our selves that it's us who know where we stand, and that we're strong, and that we are ok with our own view, but don't give a damn about others's views of oneself... (Complicated sentence, but yeah).

In short... Don't listen to others... and also btw... Family don't mean harm when saying such a thing about weight... They only worry about you, out of their own view of what good health is.. In older times, 1950's and before, extra body fat were viewed as healthy! It's only today the mass hysteria of extra weight and such has exploded...

Besides, not allways the case, but mostly, males don't give a crap about weighy apperance, it's no big deal for males... generally, but not allways as said...

But for females... it's mostly a big issue.. but also, not allways... but generally..

So.. If a male mentioned your weight in "public", he it was no big issue for him, so he couldnt understand it would be a big issue for you either... So i.e.. no harm ment... Some males arenet aware of females's sensitivities to this topic, and some dont even care, because they may think its a dumb and unnececary thing to be bothered about.. so they just talk about it... The think.. "it doesnt bother me, so why should it bother you"... and "dont be a baby, grow up, there are worse things to worry about", thats what males are probably thinking in such a situation...

So... no harm ment.... usually...

Btw... some weight is sexy.... So screw those bad self confidence issues...

But why....... why was i getting better over the years before these drillouts, from eating lots of raw garlic now and then, and from using garlic also in food, all foods... i used garlic like a maniac, both coocked and fresh / raw..

And i was getting better....

I don't trust mr. cutler completely... and besides i got better with garlic before... so why wouldn't i now?!


Hmm.. yeast die off... hmmmmmmmmmmm.. sceptic....
I haven't read into candida yet....

I also got better over the years before i started using garlic.... so what then?
High sulphur other foods? accidently?

How could it be yeast die off while i consume as manicly much sugar as i do.....

Nooooo.. i don't buy into mr. cutler.... I read his posts, yeah... but im not quite sure about him.... not all of what he says anyway...


But anyway.. thanks for you concern Birdlady, i appreciate it, but i will try my luck with raw garlic anyway.. I have never experienced any retox symptoms with it....

I trust, with steady stools, and high-medium sulphur foods and a good sweat now and then is the key for me... It hasn't failed me before...

Even though mr. cutler may say that garlic may retox people...
It's never retoxed me before...

And one more thing.. i also don't buy into this blood brain barrier thing about mercury completely.... Why then.... WHY was i getting better over the years cognitively? Why? Magic? Less additional mercury vapor from my fewer and fewer fillings as they fell out? lesser body and head burden? Or may it have been that soooome, atleast some mercury leaves the brain? Atleast via the psoriassis skin valves.... as i call em....

I don't know. but i was better than in my childhood, before these drillouts...
I could even handle lots and lots and lots of alcohol a cpl of moths ago... but now... i have to be as careful as when i was 14.... Cant handle much anymore... i think... i dont dare to drink with an allready stressed brain...

Jeeesh... why am i here when i am fit enough to work on my website today....
Because this here is important to me... and so have you guys become too..


Anyway.. thanks for your warning and concerns.. but it hasnt hurt me before.. so i will atleast try it slowly with garlic..... and see....
I trust garlic more than that ratpoison chlorella anyday. anyway...



Have good health today girls!

Cheers...

By the way... If garlic only stirs up merucy.... if Cutler is right.... Then garlic may stir up enough mercury from those selenium groups in the body (temporary), to let the body's own chelation system work again.. if only for a short period of time until the merucry resettles and binds to selenium again and then disables the body's natural chelation system again....

So if garlic can mobilze and or bind atleast some mercury... enough to release it from some selenium chains... then the body can use that free selenium to convert it into... you know.. i dont remember the name of the body's naturl chelator.. but its made from selenium.... so... if enough mercury is mobilized away from atleast some selenium... then my theory is that one can temporariliy re-enable some of the body's natural chealtor enough to bind that mobilized mercury...

So.... i say.. maybe some small amounts of stir ups is good in that way...
Besied... just take a couple of jumps.. just take a walk, and you will stirr up mercury.... Also freeing up some disabled selenium chains enough to re enable natural detox... Just some thoughts.... That may also be why jogging clears up the head for most of us....

Hmm.....

Careful is the ticket anyway.... Nice and slow.... to see where its going...

Btw, when i talk about stir ups, i mean microscopicly stir ups... not major stir ups like with chlorella.... That is dangerous!

Take a look at chlorellaman at youtube....

Besides, Cutler says if i dont remember wrong.. that garlic is somewhat effective, but not noteworthy enough... So he concludes its not effective...

But thats where i say... Ok, i dont really know how effective it really is.. but if it is only lesser effective.. then its perfect to start out with.. to first clear the extracellular space of mercury! Then use other means later at step two, to draw mercury out from its intracellular spaces and into the extracellular to be carried away by the body's own natural chellator and by free sulphur radicals from garlic and other foods again...

Repeat this cycle in small steps until one gets better... That is my theory....
But i personally dont know about step.2, because im afraid of heavy duty chelators... because of what chlorella did to me, and because of what i read about DMPS and DMSA, ALA, etc, etc..... other peoples experiences....

Those heavy detox/retox symptoms that chlorella gave me, scared the [shoot] out of me to say the least!

Garlic..... Garlic = God!?? Garlic has allways been safe for me....


So maybe garlic really stirs up mercury.. somewhat.. and that mercury is then free to retox other tissues.... and ofcourse that would be bad... but maybe the now just freed up tissues or molecules accidentally was a selenium chain? what then.. then it would mean that some of the now freed mercury would try to retox other tissues, but the now free selenium would be able to convert to, and make the body's natural chelator.. atleast in small ammounts, enough to hinder that free mercury from binding to other tissues... and carry atleast some of it away and out....

So i say.. maybe garlic partly retoxes and detoxes at the same time... by chance... (if it frees selenium or not, for a short enough time)
And if the effects of that is so small... and gently.. then im willing to continue to eat garlic.... and see... with saunas ofcourse.. because it didnt do me any harm in the past....



Just thoughts....

I'm sorry to hear that you don't trust Dr. Cutler. When I first read about him, I had done a challenge test, was on EDTA and chlorella. I was pretty irritated that all of these websites say to take this and that for mercury. Then all of Dr. Cutler's information was the EXACT opposite. He certainly shattered my mercury detox paradigm. Everything I thought I knew was wrong.

It took a few days for me to accept the fact that all of these other natural health sites know nothing about detoxing for mercury. I quit taking the chlorella and EDTA. I still had amalgams in my mouth at this time. I specifically emailed the one guy and asked him point blank if it's safe to take EDTA with amalgams in the mouth and told me absolutely. He said it was more important to take because I still had my fillings. Can you believe that garbage?!

So my point of saying all of this is that I hope you don't distrust him because the information is hard to swallow or accept. I think garlic is great to eat because it cleanses the body, but I would never use it as a chelator.

Today i just want to open my skin's pores up wide... and apply a powerfull electromagnetic field to my body and draw that SHITTY MERCURY OUT once and for all!!!

Edit:
And then put it in the mouths of those who decided to put it in our mouths in the first place....

Am i pissed of.. YES!! I AM!


But, i will get well eventually.....


So does it really matter with vengeance?? I dont really know...
What matters is that i get well!

Well Birdlady... i don't know... I also read that Mr. Cutler is on the total opposite side of what all the others says... so i figured him for a misinformation agent...

But... some garlic anyway cant hurt.. and i know it binds mercury... iwe read about the ammino chemical convertion processes myself. pretty advenced stuff i might add... http://tuberose.com/Sulphur_and_Mercury.html

Glutathione... there it is... Selenium is a key player into making Glutathione, which is the body's natural chelator.. I don't need mr cutler to tell me if thats right or wrong...

I also know that they say artificial glutathione isnt good.. but when you let the body make its own glutathione be freeing mercury from selenium bonds..... thats another thing in my mind...

So if garlic can by chance free up and clean enough selenium chains in the body, then the body can start to make its own glutathione again, and then carry out that freed up mercury that was attached to the selenium, on its own...

Thats how i understand it....

Hehehe... I should have been a scientist, but the mercury destroyed my schools, and later also my unimportant ordinary jobs which i had to take bacuse of no real and complete education...

I'm not all knowing.. no.. no i'm not... it's tons of stuff about the body that i have yet to know about... But i'm certain that if i'd studied for years in detail about the body's mechanisms.. i would understand it completely, eventually.... thats what kind of insight i have into things that interrests me...

But..... I'm only one person... with a burden on my beeing, from poison... And im not fully committed to put all my thoughts into all of it either.. but some i know... some.... and from that i can atleast see a partly picture of how it may work...

Not having a full picture can be dangerous yes, while experimenting on oneself...
But i can atleast see where its going....

And btw..... no one has died from eating?!

And those artificial vitamins??? hmm.... how did mankind cope for thousands of years without them?? hmmm i wonder...

I'm not denying the importance of a right diet, no..... But i say that the right diet. whatever that is... can make wonders naturally!

For so many years i thought that God had designed a flawed organism called the human body.... Why does the allmighty design a female body that bleeds every month.... why don't we regrow teeth and limbs like sharks and insects?
Why?? Why make such an imperfect organism?

Because the annunaki was our designers??? Or........... because infact God (Not the annunaki), but the real God of the cosmos, designed our bodies, and he designed it perfectly with no need for limb regrowal because the body also had built in auto detoxing and tons of firewalls, etc.. the immunesystem...., the skin... etc...

It's like not equipping a cabincruiser with paddles to row with.... It is designed to be so reliable that its no need for further security....

So..... That may be why our bodies is 99% secure... but not a 100%...
I mean.. our bodies is capable of fighting all kinds of disease, but only mercury... that 1% unconsidered by God.... mercury clogs the whole superadvanced and super secury system...

Talk about sticks in the bikewhells...

It's like crashing a supersecure machine with a pin...


Without mercury in the body.. the body can even handle lead and all other toxins....
The only flaw about the body is that God didn't consider that 1%... that the sulphur chains in our proteins can be clogged by one metall alone... more than any other.. and thats mercury....

So are we 100% flawless in our design? no... but we are somewhat 95%-99% flawless... That one remaining percent crashed our allmost perfect organism...

So who would go to all their lenghts to design such a good machine as our bodies... and consider everything, but this little flaw??
who???

God?? the annunaki (on purpose?)

WHAT?!!!

Why does the human body has failsafes everywhere, but not on the sulphur chains??
WHY!!? The most important and basic place to protect?!!!

WHY!!!!!

That is the real question!

My understanding now is that God did design a ~perfect organism for us to live in...
But satan clogged it with mercury.... (the little pin in that advanced machinery)

I'we heared religiously and conspiracy'ly that satan or the annunaki set out to sabotage Gods work.. i.e.. us.... What better way then, then to use mercury to disable our most basic building blocks and our most basic functions?!

Ingenious..... I would call it a abuse of a security hole in our machinery design...
Analogous to a security hole in a computer program..

But why was there a security hole in our human organism in the first place?
Did God err in our creation? How can he unless he's a man himeself...

Because this whole thing about our designflaw.. sound more and more like human error during design, and not divine error...

So was God kindof a man? A more advanced man? On a higher plane?
The bible says that we are designed in Gods image!

So why are we 99% complete...... because a man designed us, another imperfect beeing designed our bodies?

I dont know, but it seems that way... But..... i dont care... I trust in God and Jesus anyway!

But it is really food for thought....

One thing is for certain anyway... The world is not right!
There ARE unholy forces trying to destroy the human race!

And we have started asking questions.. more and more of us!
Let ut hope that its not too late to awaken as we do these days...

Knowledge is power!

One thing is for certain anyway... The world is not right!
There ARE unholy forces trying to destroy the human race!

And we have started asking questions.. more and more of us!
Let ut hope that its not too late to awaken as we do these days...

Knowledge is power!



Let us win and live to regain our God given lives to their fullest!!!!!

Let us also unite as the deers on the field does to protect them from the predators... Before THEY (satan or whomever it is) gain total controll over, and cencor the INTERNET too...


HALELUJAH!!!

The internet... our last ~free ground to meet up with each others....
The last place on earth where freedom of mind and freedom of speech still exists truly! For the most anyway.. as there are agencies who monitors the net...

But we can atleast talk to each others....
And theres nothing wrong with that..

Mercury was put in our mouths on purpose!
The least we can do is to repair the damage.... to our best extent...

I'm not talking revolution here... I'm not talking anything of the sort... but I'm saying we have to stand together for our protection!

With open eyes and ears as the deers on the fields does...
No more, no less...

God is our father,
Jesus is our saviour,
The holy spirit is our knowledge and educator!

And You and I, have to be responsible with our gifts, our lives!

Amen!

I don't know about all this....

I just want a full life... with God by my side, thats all!
Fair and square!

Why can't we all just be good to each others? No wars, no conflict, no greed, no power mongering.... no evil....

Why won't some "souls" just let us live in peace?!

It's THAT simple!

Amen!

Maybe life really is what we make it ourselves.... Maybe life is a product of our own choices.... But then... Mercury was NOT my choice!

So can we control everything? Can we? We can control much, but can we control everything?

We can make our own biodomes if we got enough "money", and grow our food and even make our own clean air with enough science and knowledge...
But what if the damage is allready done? We are poisoned....

Much is our own choices and in our own power, but mercury certainly wasn't my choice!

Can we correct the damage? can we detox? Is it in our own powers to realy detox and restart our full lives?!

I choose to belive it can be done, I choose to belive i will get better!
But is it enough?!

I don't know, but i trust God!
So i think it can be done, others say they allready have detoxed...
But at what cost?!


Life isn't free of costs.... (not money)
Life is life.....
Whatever that is....

To be... or not to be....
To be.. and to be happy... to think..... to love.... to be aware of God!

I don't know what life really is, but i treat it as a gift, and try my best to make it optimal and full of joy, whatever that really is.... heh...
Explain what color really is to me.. explain what smell is.. explain what a thought is?! (Electromagnetic cosmological waves?, then what are they? really?!)

I dont know, but i know that a life without suffering is what life was ment to be!
A life in total happyness!

And that is what we must strieve for!
That is the meaning of life!


Maybe......
Atleast it is to the best of my understanding.....

The best for us, the best for God. The betterment of God thru the betterment of mankind with love and general prosperity...


And now the great philosopher bows down and says thankyou for listening....
Amen!

Hmmmmmmm..
Atleast you have functional bowels.. I firmly belive that atleast some mercury and ofcourse many other toxins will exit thru stools while the bowel is working...

So thats good for you!

About gaining weight... i don't know... maybe your body needs to gain weight for some reason now? Or maybe your enzymes are going haywire because mercury is bound to the enzyme reseptors on the cells that control fat storage?

I don't know... but i personally think girls with curves is a YES, if not too much of it though... Too much meaning like sumo much and such....

I hope that wasnt offensive... Because it want ment that way.

Be happy if you are able to rid the dizziness and other stuff...
Then you could allways later losse weight if it bothers you...

There is always a way... when the time is right......
Sigh.... that applies to me aswell, but not with weight issues... but about full body detox....



God bless you Birdlady!
Be thankful for whatever little sunshine there are... and there will be more!

Yes i know... My bad chlorella trial.....
But all those website owners treat Cutler as if he's a misinformation agent..
So i thought.......... i'd give their cures a try.... and got burnt...

However... I did eat chlorella on an nonfunctional bowel... however that doesnt mean i dare to try again.....

And from that experience i'm now even cautious about Cutler's methods...

Trust no one.. but your own understanding..... especially if your own understanding is reflected by others to be logicly sound!

But even that can be wrong know and then.. but mostly... the gut feeling may be correct....

They say, healing is individual.... maybe.. to some extent.... but i also belive there a some universals... but who to trust then???

Confusion and the stagnation in making our own choises is our greatest enemy.
I know it is mine..... But life is all about taking risks and making choises....

I hope I, and we don't err too much in that process..

Take care!

Even Andy Cutler admits some people do REALLY well on high sulfur foods. Some tend not to and find it just exacerbates their symptoms to the point of making things much worse and sometimes long term. I've had both and not sure why. When I still had amalgams, I took garlic supplements and they worked well. However, after last amalgam removal? I don't know what happened, but I was suddenly wide open for reactions from sulfur foods (any, even cabbage, eggs, onions etc). The mercury got mobilised readily and the reactions were sometimes intolerable. I'd say this might have been because my body was ready to start detoxing it anyway and anything added just exacerbated it.

However, it indicated to me (at that time when I did not know much about chelators), that this was at least, doing "something". So I tended to take breaks and repeat. I found the the sulfur foods were less painful in reaction than the supplements. Garlic supplements caused VERY strong reactions, so I was careful with that one.

I think Andy is excellent in what he does, but there are other avenues people try and do well in. I take the warnings he gives because I think it's worth listening to and taking some heed and trying things at first, slowly in small doses testing for reactions. Because he's seen firsthand some pretty rotten things happen to people who come crying to him for help and he's had to try and undo what's been done. He's had years of it, so I take some notice of it.

Funnily enough Ole, I have tried garlic recently and I am quite certain there was some metal eruption. Yet chelating agents this time have done nothing.....so there's food for thought (excuse the pun ;)). Apparently, according to a dentist here who suggests garlic to help detox his mercury patients, that the garlic changes the form of the mercury into salts that can be excreted....what do you guys make of that?

For me, the food was much better than the supplement form. I got hurt very badly from garlic supplements twice in a row, which I believe it shunted toxins into my gut area and I was in agony for many months. I had to use DMSA Andy style to slowly but surely try and chelate it back out. It thankfully worked. I actually saw the rash on my abdomen as the metals there would be acting up. As the chelator was pulling them gradually out, the rashes got lower and lower down.

yet garlic in the form of food has never done this to me. So I wonder, for some, if extracted garlic being turned into a supplement can have some drawbacks. Perhaps the overall garlic in its full state may have had other areas that were quite essential and acted as a kind of protective element to other parts that people don't consider? When you start messing around with nature and taking this out and leaving this in etc, the overall nature of it has been altered. Now it was made to be consumed in natural form for no doubt, good reason. So I am a testament as to what can happen when one consumes garlic in supplement form. Yet I used to be fine on it, but that is because I did not have the virus back then or these gut problems. So now, I am kind of a canary you could say. I'm much more sensitive and can readily detect a problem because I"m so much more suseptible.

So yeah Ole, I think it does do something and if you find you can tolerate it, then I'd go for it. Since sulfur is very healthy and some people with mercury require it. Andy does admit this. And yes it does have detox ability with metals, I've felt it myself. But I just steer clear of the supplement form of it now. I go for the food. I don't like it in raw form though (not for me), but I throw it into my stir fries in crushed form instead.

It maybe helping you and why stop something that works?

Hi Ole, well I consider the flaws we have simply the result of the fall. That's how I see it and Satan taking advantage of this and using many humans as puppets to inflict a lot of suffering on others by toxins such as these on our much more vulnerable conditions. Some withstand it much better than others admittedly, but only to a point.

Nobody is immune, but I see some value in suffering also. I've gotten much closer to a God I barely had time for before. sad but true! But not without alot of anger and fist shaking along the way and hate too I admit that. Cursing? Yes, I can be accused of this. I feel sick to think back, but then so many times I was in such a mercury torment, I honestly don't know how much was the real "me" or a manipulated poisoned "me".....not that I'm excusing it, but I can gain a bit more understanding of those going through the same.

I somehow held onto Him, or at least always went back to Him in the end. Knowing that doing without him not only didn't help matters, but made things worse, more empty, more dead and detached. A worse condition even than what my sickness was doing. Sometimes it's our reactions to our circumstances that may make things even worse. Though, try telling that to a person in a state of extreme torment/suffering. I just could not be consoled sometimes or logically spoken to. That's what this stuff does. At times, I swear it was like I was possessed. I was risky to be around in those mercury rages/torment. There are in fact a couple of holes in my bedroom wall and door from the rages.

Take care!

Hmmmmmm

Encouraging. Yes..

This is the same as when i take multivitamines.... They give me headaces and a bad day...

I'we tried one day on, and one day off, for one week or two now.... and it seems i can confirm the same with the multivitamin supplement as you confirmed with the garlic supplement....

But what i was affraid of, was to collapse into fatigue if i didnt take the multivitamine supplements. And im still not sure if only real food can keep me going now.... But why not? I'we kickstarted my stomach and bowel movements now... So maybe only a good and steady diet will keep me going from now on?!

Heh.. funny you should mention taking nature apart and then reassemble it in an unnaturally order again.... This thought has never left me for some time now after i started beein fanatic about food additives...


Look at invert sugar..... like a sugar crystal, but with no fuel potential....
Hmm

Hi again Birdlady, How long has you had those dizzyness's?

Do it lessen now and then?

It's torture!

It's like beein seasick or worse...

The problem I have with garlic is how do you even know it's doing something? How do you dose properly, so it is constantly in the system?

This is the problem with things like chlorella and cilantro. There is no way to know how long it stays in the body. Typically you just take it once a day, which causes redistribution each and every day. Has anyone done any studies on how garlic moves mercury? I wouldn't want to be depending on something that may or may not be doing anything to move the mercury.

I've had the dizziness since I came down with Epstein-Barr Virus at 16. That is when my health really took a turn for the worst. However it was tolerable. Then at 19 is when everything simply fell apart. The facade eventually came crashing down.

So the vertigo (dizziness + balance issues, motion sickness + sometimes pressure headace) is persistent in you? if that is what it is?

F........ how unpleasant this is... its worse at the evening... is it for you?
Is it even the same thing?

read please!....

http://www.neurologychannel.com/vertigo/causes.shtml

I don't think my dizziness is a balance issue with the inner ear. I was diagnosed with orthostatic hypotension. My dizziness is usually exaggerated when I stand up or bend down because my blood pressure falls rapidly. It is also worse when it is hot and humid outside. When I take my nasal spray (desmopressin) I feel a lot better, so I think part of my problem is chronic dehydration. My pituitary doesn't regular water balance properly in the body, so I am dehydrated even though I'm drinking water. You can look up diabetes insipidus if you want to understand it more.

Since taking the medicine I've been better. However there are still days when it is bad.

I found this on a website talking about orthostatic hypotension. It has very similar symptoms.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20031215/2393.html



If you scroll down towards the bottom of the page, there is a flow chart. In the one section called "non-neurogenic etiologies" it says that diabetes insipidus can cause this, so that all makes sense for me. Adrenal insufficiency can cause this too, which I suspect I have. I took 5mg of cortef today and I felt A LOT better.

Sigh...

I have no where to go... my parents won't belive me...
They say that i have to go to an ordinary "doctor" to get help with my symptoms if they really are indicating such dangerous illnesses that i describe...

I try to tell em that it's no use, but they won't listen....
I need money to get into a special detox clinic in the USA or something, if they even exist....

I don't want to develope MS or something like that....
I'm also affraid to get stuck with vertigo, and my back pains..
I have pain in my right body and head side, but not on the left... which indicated stroke or MS... And i had a "whiteout" / allmost blackout, that instinctively reminded of a stroke.... the last week...

So after that, i got vertigo and.....

I know that it's normal to manifest all those diseases that mercury is the underlaying cause of, during the time after amalgam removal...

But what scares me is that some will eventually get well after these cycles, but som get stuck in one specific disease and then go to the "doctor" and for example gets a diagnose of MS...... And then the only cure is to chelate.....
But to chelate alone is dangerous, and i'm scared....

Is there cheleation clinics around the world?
And what is the cost?
Does people get help from those?

I'm tired of fighting this fight alone....
Everyone locally here except my GF is a complete IDIOT that don't believe the corruption of the official health system...

They won't believe me.... There is no help besides how i help my self.. and i'm tired... I only see small betterments by them selves in me....
I'm affraid i won't get better, but my GF says that it looks like i have gotten a little better over the past 2-3 weeks now... but i don't see it that clearly.. Well i feel some betterment, but at the same time, other things manifest... or.....

Some get better by them selves with time, but some will get stuck...

I'm affraid.... I want to function again!

Will it take me 10yrs or more too, as many other unlucky souls?
Or will these symptoms go away be them selves over time.....

As i say, i feel some betterment, but...... They are so small that it doesn't feel like progress....

This is normal after drillout yes? I know they are, but....
What if i retoxed my brain with the chlorella???
Then i won't get better, will i?

I'we heared of people that drilled out both 4 and 5 fillings (unprotected), and didn't get as ill as i have gotten. So then it couldn't be my little finedrilling of the amalgam that was left after main drillout, that made me sick (protected drillout, with unprotected fine drillouts afterwards)...

It must have been the chlorella!?
But then if it is.... I'we retoxed myself so badly that i have to chelate or else i will get stuck?

And what scares me is that they say that the brain doesnt detox on its own....
Well... not a atleast a little over time???

Sigh...

Why me.......
I want to live!
I want to live with good helath!

I don't want to accept an official diagnose of for example MS some time in the future now....

All because of amalgam drillout, and chlorella error....

Sigh...

The good things in all this is....

I don't have that much shortness of breath, and i can walk, and think, and remember, but not optimally. And i'm not fatigued as much as i were...
I infact has so much energy that i can cope for a whole day...
And i eat, but hasnt got much apetite... I have ridden the constipation...

So that is well...

But, i have vertigo, and pains in my right side of my body, and migraines now and then..... And i have "micro" fatigues at the evenings....

I'we also tested my self's tollerance to multivitamines, and they make me feel worse..

So the first day after vitamins, i still have migrain and heavy vertigo, but the next day the migrain is allmost nonpresent, but the vertigo persists... lesser yeah, but still persists...

Day 3, i havent gotten to without vitamins yet.. so i dont know...

But.... Don't i need those vitamins and minerals to avoid fatigue, and to support the body's natural chelation capacity? They say i have to... But i can't tollerate those vitamins... I'm affraid to fall into fatigue if i don't take em...

Will a normal, but full diet without artificial vitamins keep me going?
Will i get better with time?

Or will i get stuck with.. for example MS? or vertigo forever until i chelate properly with f.ex DMSA??


I can't take this more now....
Well i can, but i don't want to fight this alone....

No one to turn to but you guys...
Not doctors, not.......

I have my GF yes, but she doesn't read...
She only takes my words for it... And see me daily and supports me, but as i said.. she doesn't read... So i have no one to reflect my logical question to...

I have no security... No confirmations around my theories, no disconfirmations, but from you guys...

No doctors (again) to turn to... Parents that doesn't belive the corruption in the med system....


I'm alone... but i have you guys.. but you are not here...

We should have been together at a detox clinic if they exists...
but money.....

Affraid i won't get better....


I stand alone.... atleast locally where i stand...
Me....... the only real intelligent soul in miles......

And now i need other intelligent souls to conference with...
And there are.... But you guys are far away...
We all are far away from each others....

Tell me...
Am i just going thru natural healing crisis?
Is that all?
Am i getting better?! (but slowly)


Is my right body side pains only due to that i removed a filling on the right side the last time i drilled?

Because of the magnetic fields that was altered on my right body side?
Those symptoms also indicate stroke amongst others...

No help at the "doctors" office... i won't even try...
But isn't it dangerous to avoid the "doctors" if i manifest a dangerous disease?
I know those diseases i manifest i because of the recent mercury removal, and or due to the chlorella episode, but i know they "doctors" won't belive that...

So what is the point in going to a "doctor"... To get a diagnose for everything else than mercury poisoning, and to get meds (pharma) for that bullshit disease?

I didn't suddenly out of the blue get MS and or vertigo just by chance just after an amalgam drillout, now did i? NO!

It is the mercury.... But the doctors won't listen...
So I'm alone... I am the only one in my "clan" who read.... Does research.... Connects with people like you.... Searches....

Im F...... alone!

I SO HATE DUMB SOULS!!!
I'm annoyed with my parents for not educating themselves when they were young, and denied my vaccines and dental amalgams when i was young...


THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ALOWED TO HAVE HAD CHILDREN!!!
Well they are there for me... Yes.. But they won't understand the real stuff.. the real cause... They won't listen to me...
They know that i got like this after the amalgam removal, yes, but they still want me to go to an ordinary doctor if things get seriously ill.
And i try to educate them how and why the "system" is corrupt, but the won't listen... It's like they understand that i got this way after amalgam drillouts, but still think i ought to go to a "doctor" for those symptoms i now manifest.. to get a diagnose and a "cure" for that wrong diagnose with the doctor...

It's like they partly see it, but won't awaken completely!
Are they just in denial?

WHY ARE THEY SO DUMB!? Why can't they see the real picture for what it IS?!!

Bourne by idiots, raised by idiots..... surrounded by idiots in my local community...

IM SICK OF IT!!!!



I want to get well naturally by my self over time (short time) to regain my health and to restart developing my webshop and then earn me enough money to start more companies and then to get enough money to travel the world and connect with other SMART souls, and then be happy with life, and not have to be alone surrounded by idiots no more!!

That is how i feel!
And that is my goal!

But did i destroy for myself by making the wrong choise to drill out that amalgam?
And, or, did i take a wrong step when trying chlorella?
A fatal an permanent one?

Will i again take the wrong step and make things even worse if i decide to try DMSA?! I'm so afraid to make things worse now....
But to wait and see if things get better by themselves?? When i know that others has gone over 10yrs and not gotten better?!!!!

To try DMSA, or to wait and see... then if not better, to try DMSA or to avoid it, not getting better at all....

Yes, i take the sorrows prematurly... I know.. But its hard to look forward with ceratinties when other fall, even when trying....


God, i beg for forgiveness for what i may have done wrong in this life!

What the F. have i done to deserve this!!!!??

Mercury in my vaccines and in my teeth wasnt my choise!
It was out of MY control before i grew up and got to decide for myself...
But now it is to late!?

Is it?

Without taking a huge risk with dangerous chelators!?

I don't want to make things worse again... If infact i indeed did some real damage with chlorella....

But i don't want to go on with these symptoms and pains either, which may not go away if i don't chelate!?


I don't know...
Even Andy Cutler says people can get well on their own....
If i understood him right...

But in which group am i?
The lucky self healing over time group?
Or in the group that never heals without chelation?

Only time will tell... But now.. The trust in "time heals all illnesses" is not so much present.. only a little... (hope), And the fact that it seems that im progressing, but slowly.. but I'm not sure.... The days are long... I won't know for sure for another month maybe... But now..... I want to know now!! If i'm getting better...



Sigh...

I'm sure some of you, if not all of you can indentify with some of these thoughts...

I don't know...

They say faith can move mountains.. And yes.. they can...
But why then do people get, and die from MS.... for example..
Do they not have faith...

Is faith and reality two diffrent things?!

I so regret deciding to remove those amalgams...
I so regret it.....
I so regret that chlorella...

Atleast, i regret it, if i don't get better...

Afterwards ofcourse if and when i get better, then i won't regret it..

But that is a big IF!!!

Will i regret trying DMSA too? if i try it?! Will it then be even more too late?!


My ego says it is a big certain WHEN i get well!

But realisticly........


Bex... please throw a couple of bible verses at me.....

I need motivation... i need faith...

I need.... To get well!


Jesus is KING!!

Halalujah!

Hi Ole,

I understand this kind of panic and despair and the feeling of being permanently damaged etc. I had that many many times during my mercury torment and the slow painful detox that came after. I doubt the chlorella has done any permanent damage to you, just skip using it again. It hurt me also at the time and onetime I used it and I was very sick for a long time (probably a month or more). Because it just erupted mercury everywhere and my body had to try and deal with it.

I had many times that things like that happened. Even high sulfur foods caused mobilisation and sick symptoms, but not as bad as chlorella. Once I took chlorella and wound up on one side of my bed (between the wall and bed) screaming, crying and salivating. Now yes that was not totally abnormal for me, but it was made much worse by products like that which seemed (for me at least) to give an intolerable reaction. Sometimes I was ok, other times I was not. So I had to skip chlorella in the end.

Garlic hurt me too then (supplement form).

I had very little that didn't make me feel like I was dying or about to go completely psycho and once you set off such a reaction, there is no telling when it might start to improve/die down. Also, you have to remember that once all amalgams are out, your body will start to naturally try and dump the mercury - which feels like retox.

It is really hard to recommend something to you if you have any remaining amalgam, since for some, trying to chelate/detox can cause problems when they have a bit leftover. It is not the wisest move, but I know the odd person who has done this and felt better for it. Some did not. So you'd be wise to have every bit of amalgam taken out, rather than mess around with too many detox products at this point....it's up to you though, but steer clear of chlorella if it's hurt you this much and it seems it has.

Remember the body is trying to heal. Whatever stage you are at, it's asserting itself and trying to heal. I would seriously suggest to you that you go on a candida diet. You can still consume some natural forms of sugar if you are concerned like some fruit etc. Although it's very sweet and can potentially still feed candida, it is nothing compared to the impact of straight sugar on the immune system and feeding candida. In my mercury toxic days, I went on a sort of candida diet and just excluded the bad - sugar, wheat/gluten and yeast. I was able to consume everything else just about. Even milk in cereal. THough I stayed away from wheat/gluten cereals. Reason being, wheat is treated wtih mercury fungicide, you do not want to consume that when you're poisoned already. Risky and gluten is another bad one that can really cause problems in many people.

Be aware that when giving up foods like this, will incur a detox reaction and headaches are often a sign of that happening. I would not take supplements, until you can handle a diet like this and detox symptoms start to die down. Then later, you maybe able to handle supplements better as your body would already be reduced in toxins. Supplements may only add to the detox effect and diet alone is more than enough.

That is up to you though. But many people think they are gettign worse with diet/supplements because their symptoms increase. They assume this means they are deteriorating, yet it is more often than not, healing reaction. Headaches are very common and for me, that ws the first thing that started to get worse. In fact, I thought my head would explode at one point, but it was just toxins coming lose in and around my brain and other organs.

I also cried and had other symptoms, but I stuck it out. Believe me, if this is half of your problem, and you stick to this diet, you won't know yourself once you get through the worst part of it. I would not recommend overdoing fruit and other natural sugar foods, but they can help you get through the sugar cravings if you really feel you need something sweet.

I don't recall what supplements I had at that stage...but I do remember the diet and at first it was just awful.

Andy Cutler's protocol was the only protocol that helped me in the end. And remember I was an extreme case. Hypersensitive, very toxic and coudl barely tolerate anything to detox the mercury. I chose his and I started to handle it better. You can always use very small doses if you are concerned. So long as you take it every 4 hours around the clock (waking up at night with an alarm to take doses then too) for about 3 days or so. Then take a break of the same amount of time or longer. You just keep this cycle up until you start to feel better as you reduce the blood/tissue burden of mercury in a safe, consistent manner. This protocol keeps the mercury movement more stable in your blood because the chelating agent is being taking at regular intervals. If you miss a dose? Then it's best to stop the round and wait a few days before starting again. You can take a late dose, so long as it's not too late. But the every 4 hour routine is essential because after 4 hours, the chelator levels begin to drop in the blood and you want to keep them at the same level so you don't cause up and down spiking of chelator, with up and down movement of mercury (causing redistribution).

There will be a certain amount of redistribution at the end of each round because you need to stop at some point and have a break, but it'll be ok and it's pretty minimal. It gets bad when you take isolated doses or well separated. I used to get violently ill from taking just one isolated dose of DMSA. That's how poisoned I was. So Andy was right, the every 4 hour routine keeps it safe. It's not really the DMSA that is the problem, it's the mercury. And when you find out how to treat it and move it out of you, then you'll usually be able to chelate pretty well with not too much of a problem. Even children have DMSA when they are poisoned.

Also DMSA taken in that way can help correct a bad reactoin created by redistribution of mercury by incorrectly taken chelators or mobilising agents like chlorella. It has gotten me out of some very bad situations. I remember I was taking a product that was just pretty much a detox support supplement. I didn't realise that within this supplement contained agents that mobilised mercury and taken incorrectly coudl result in some extreme reactions. And that is exactly what happened when I started using it. So I went onto the DMSA (every 4 hours) and it began to correct the reaction again. I also used it after an antifungal agent. Antifungals can split the cell walls of candida open. If the candida contains significant heavy metals, then this may release alot of it by killing too much yeast at once (splitting them open). I was poisoned badly from it and I got onto the DMSA and it began to heal the reaction and remove that mercury.

So I'd say Cutler's protocol has been a life saver for me many times. I really recommend it, but I am not sure whether Andy advocates using chelators whilst you still have any remaining amalgam. I am pretty sure he tells people to remove every bit of it before you start. It maybe just a precaution or he could be blamed if things go wrong....he's just erring on the side of caution. Some believe that the chelator turns up in the saliva and can encourage further release of mercury from any existing amalgams....not sure, but I don't know if I'd risk it.

The kind of sense of doom/despair seems to be the nature of mercury and it can also happen when you are doing alot of healing and may not be aware of this. Sadly, mercury detox can cause a very real sense that you are in a black hole and will never come out. I cannot tell you how often I had to lie on my bed curled up with the covers over me because I could not take it. I was often close to ending my life, but somehow I kept going. I struggled on, but didn't really want to. I just wanted it to end. It feels like it never will and the symptoms are frightening. Andy Cutler refers to it as "tremendous suffering". I sincerely do not know of another kind of poison/metal that has had quite the impact on the mind that mercury has done - apart from infections (viral/dental etc). The candida diet truly brought me much improvement and hope, but in the time I was actively detoxing mercury post amalgam removal? Diet or not, I was in a state of detox despair quite often. But a properly thought-out protocol helped me alot. I'd say diet and a good detox protocol were my real hope and help, apart of course from my faith - which I feel without? I may not have continued on. And that's where the Cross became a painful reality to me, rather than me looking at it hanging on a wall, I became intimitately aquainted with suffering and grief in ways that I was unable to put into words. I could often not even pray. But I knew my suffering and inner torment spoke volumes to a Christ that knows our grief and pains intimately and has suffered more than we can imagine.