Originally Posted by Sean
Originally Posted by Jeanie
Originally Posted by Sean
Originally Posted by Jeanie
[quote=Sean]The Isrealites are his chosen ones from the chose land, so what does that mean for us here? I mean seriously that part just scares me to death. I know Jesus is a loving GOD, but he said the chosen ones in the bible and does that mean we are not? I have Irish, American Indian and a few other things in me no doubt, mostly Irish, but I am not a Herbrew or a true Jewish person as he would say, so does that mean I am not the chosen? Oh the bible, the great bible, so many questions.


The Bible talks about the first being last (Jews) and the last being first (Gentiles). Technically not being Jewish we are gentiles, but the Gospel is meant for all. We (LDS) believe we existed as spirit children in the pre-existence before with God and that those of us who made covenants there are of Israel. Many of us have literal roots that link us to Abraham. For instance, I am also Irish, native American (Cherokee), English, French, etc., but have been given a blessing which links me literally to the house of Israel through Ephraim (through Joseph). It basically means those who are through Abraham. I am "of Israel." Many Indians are of Mannasah. But anytime anyone accepts the Gospel even if not literally of Israel, they are "grafted" into the "tree." The Jews obviously have rejected Jesus the Christ but when He returns they will know He was and is their literal redeemer. They expected a Messiah who would come and save them in their condition quite literally (from bondage) but He saved us all from bondage from sin. When He returns, though, He will literally save them from physical destruction because they will be at the brink of it....

There is a lot of anti-Mormon hogwash which some of the members on here like to promote, but the Book of Mormon is actually a record of the Native Americans back to 600 BC. They came over from Jerusalem originally as a family. Jesus came to America and established His church here on the American continent before He ascended into Heaven (but after His resurrection). The people here experienced 300 years of peace but then went back to their warring ways. (The Incans, Mayans, Aztecs and on to the modern day Tribes that they eventually spread into).

Anyway - don't worry Sean. I have a feeling you are definitely "of Israel." Usually they are people who respond. His sheep hear His voice : )
Right Right, my old buddy came up to me yesterday who I did not know was into this bible stuff (Which is great), and says you know you are not the chosen right very low, I said I know I am not an israelite nor a real Jew and understand the Gentiles and so on, he said good it's in the bible. I know it is for all! I am not saying a real Jewish person is more holy than me or stands more of a chance, color or religion does not matter IMO, it's what is inside of you and if you really mean what you say and live for God or live the best you can and realize you are a sinner and nobody is perfect! Jeanie thanks alot, you are a good person.

BTW Pops on his side I am Irish, on my moms side her dad was American Indian or a good part of it, so thats most of my heritage right there (I know the 12 tribes had the American Indian in it correct? Meaning their equivilant). I am not saying I am closer to God because of it because I am not, but just wondering about my heritage. Whats funny IS GOD just came to me this summer, I did not come to him he seemed to rear thoughts and come into my life! I am not near all there yet, but I am starting to change, slowly but surely! Whats funny is he came to me, with the NWO stuff and the Chemtrails and so on like a warning to keep me safe and aware, I am very aware of evils now and so on (It is because of GOD!). No matter what color or what background you have I believe you can be of chosen, which is what I believe has happened to me (Although not Jewish or a REAL Jew as they said in the bible).


Jews are from the house (tribe) of Judah. The tribe I come through and many now in the latter days is Ephraim who was a son of Joseph if my memory serves me - connected that way at least. Anyone through the loins of the son's of Israel..... Manasah (sp?) is generally what the Indian's have proven to have come through from what we (Mormons) have witnessed at least. I suppose it would be the tribe we are predominant with. The Jews were given the gospel first, but obviously rejected it. (The first shall be last and the last shall be first). We were last....but now have it and they don't. (They made that choice by rejecting Jesus as the Christ). Anyway...its interesting, isn't it? But can be confusing.
Yes it is very interesting but very confusing, almost contradictory if that makes any sense? I read about some guy telling Me edomites will all be slaves in heaven or some crap and then I read what I just put above in a bible verse and ask him what that means. It seems some twist it all around to fit their beliefs or make them right and then ignore the other verses because it does not fit their beliefs. I think some use verses as a way of racism or to prove their the ones and you are not, that or to fit their religious beliefs. The bible is so confusing as you would say, very tough to read and many things in there that will seem contradictory or just flat out mind boggling.

2 Thessalonians 2:14 - Men are called to glory by the gospel. To whom is this call extended?

Mark 16:15,16 - The gospel should be preached to every creature in the whole world. He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. [Matt. 28:19]

Acts 2:38,39 - The promise of remission and the gift of the Holy Spirit is for ALL, as many as God calls. But the call is sent to everyone in the world!
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JEANIE: Sean, I had trouble figuring out what was right and how to interpret the scriptures. I found my answers through the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints when I was 15 and I haven't looked back. Russ on here thinks he has some information (which is not accurate) on our church, but if you happen to feel like looking into The Chruch of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints you can go to www.mormon.org. It is one of the fastest growing churches in the world. I feel strong about its truthfulness. At any rate - churches are good to go to to help you figure things out. You can find and settle on what you want and believe in. If truth matters - regardless of what Russ thinks, I would direct you to that website. If you ever want to have a private conversation about it pm me. You go to the user list and find me on there and then send a private message. I would be happy to answer any questions if I can help. This is important - probably the most important thing you will ever do!

Last edited by Jeanie; 10/26/08 10:37 PM.