No apology needed -- I could just tell that you were upset. I'm sorry to hear about this, it must all be very stressful for you -- and being where you are, then yes, it's pretty isolating. I know several people who would happily change places with you there but I'm sure that doesn't help.

From my own experience, I know that coming to a forum like this to debate can add to the stress when it's piling on. Most people here aren't going to change their beliefs one iota no matter what is said and they will go on repeating the same things, no matter what is said. Myself, I don't have much time these days and have got other things to be doing, and the discussion I was going to get round to continuing with Russ2 isn't going to happen now because he's been booted off. I like exchanging ideas and debating, but it doesn't seem to really get anywhere here.

Why not stop by EvC for a while and read threads where real scientists are talking about the science they do, and coming at creationist arguments from all angles. People like CTD don't stand a chance there, though strangely he seems to have vanished from here too for the time being.

I hope you are able to work things out for yourself and your family despite the distance. I'd love to see some pics of where you are. Any resident penguins?

Cheers,
Linda.