Originally Posted by Russ
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Would you consider a tangle of wire coat hangers to be complex. You know, the tangled mess that is sometimes found on the floor of a child's closet. What intelligence was required to put that together?


Your example is not demonstrating complexity. It is demonstrating entropy, and in fact, is a solid argument for creationism.
In what way does it demonstrate entropy? Could you show me the thermodynamic properties of hangers on a clothing rod and how this has less entropy than the thermodynamic properties of the hangers entangled with each other on the floor?

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You are interpreting your observations with your emotions instead of your intellect—A very common mistake that enables a faulty type of reasoning (emotionalism) that is necessary to accept evolution. Not surprisingly, it is exactly the same type of emotionalized-reasoning that leads to religious fanaticism, such as evolutionism.
You believe that I interpret observations with my emotions because you consider those who don't agree with you as lesser beings. Not surprisingly it is exactly the same type of arrogance that lead to Satan's fall from Heaven.

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Nevertheless...

What I was saying is this:

The LHC is complex.

The LHC broke.

There are a lot of smart ("intelligent") people working to fix it.

Conclusion:

Building and maintaining complex machines takes intelligence.
What part of the fact that organisms are complex machines prevents God from using evolution as the means to create them?

A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke