Can you tell the difference between a tangled up rope and one that has been purposely put in a "tangled up" state by an expert at tying knots?

That is my point...tangled ropes, coat hangers and Christmas lights are complex and they are not a sign of intelligence. Russ stated that complexity alone is a sign of intelligence...I have shown several cases where it is not. Therefore you cannot conclude that complexity alone means that life is the result of intelligence.

Perhaps...ordered complexity? Then we have crystalline structures that are quite ordered and quite complex. Designed by intelligence. You might say "no" but I would say "yes" because I believe that the universe was designed to work in certain ways and that crystal matrix is a result of the initial design....just as life is.