Just to let the readers be aware. This issue of rape/incest or life threatening situations (the exceptions, rather than the rule), are frequently and deliberately brought up and emphasized by
pro abortionists to arouse sympathy for their cause and justify the act of abortion. Nowhere do you see them interested in arousing sympathy for the unborn in these cases. The alternative - the unborn's torture and death is preferable.
They ignore the majority of abortions which are committed mostly outside of the reason of rape/incest/life threatening situations and are done on a daily basis all over the world. The "bundle of cells" Linda likes to refer to, is also not what comes out of an abortion.
Please view the pictures on the website to find out what happens to the unborn children during an abortion and the results.
ABORTION HOLOCAUST AND AFTERMARTH - WHAT REALLY HAPPENS Also the exception of rape/incest/danger of losing one's life has also been spoken about on this forum before.
Most abortions are not done because the Mother is in danger of losing her own life. There are difficult and extreme cases out there. But they are done mostly out of inconvenience. Proponents of abortion will often use the more extreme cases to condone abortion and push the burden of 'guilt" on the pro lifers. E.g. "How dare you take away a woman's right" (notice they never mention or care about the rights of an innocent child). Or "what about rape" (which is worse I ask? Rape or murder of an innocent? Why kill the baby and not the rapist?). Or they'll ask "what about if the Mother's own life is in danger from going through with the pregnancy". etc etc. They will use extreme scenarios to justify the act of abortion, ignoring the fact most abortions are done daily and routinely by women who simply didn't want to get pregnant and wish to "terminate" the pregnancy. There are nice clinical sounding words for an atrocious act.
The use of the rarer and more extreme scenarios are the attempts at shifting the burden of guilt where it doesn't belong. Positive terms are also used for pro abortionists "pro-choice" and those who are sticking up for the baby's life "anti-choice". Or the use of clinical and clean sounding words "termination" "abortion" for an atrocious act of taking human life at its most vulnerable.
How is it a person can be charged for a double murder if they kill a pregnant woman? Yet, suddenly it's no longer murder but "termination" when someone in a white coat with plastic gloves does the job instead? Isn't it interesting how the baby suddenly becomes human in one case, but not in the other? Suddenly then the Mother's consent cancels out the baby's humanity and right to life.
The Mothers are not shown the realities of the growing child, or what takes place during the abortion, because it would "upset her" or possibly change her mind (which it has done in places where they have given the women the right to find out what REALLY happen through being fully informed). This was brought up on the creation/evolution forum. Pictures and an idea of the procedures that take place, plus many quotes by abortionists or "ex abortionists" etc that are DAMNING statements. The finance is involved for those that keep the business going and how angry they are at the organisations that offer free councilling and services to the distressed pregnant women, giving her every means to make an informed decision.
It was also debated about on the creation/evolution forum. The exceptions are the only thing they can bring up in the end, because they have eyes to see the atrocity as we do, so the need to try and shift burdens of guilt are paramount.
The interest and concern you show for the Mother is admirable Linda. What a pity you do not show the same concern and interest for the unborn child. Why shouldn't both be protected?
Pro lifers are interested in both Mother and child, hence why there are free councelling provided, and adoption agencies also. Killing the unborn child has not proven to take the stress/trauma away from the Mother and is in fact an added trauma. Carrying the baby for 9 months knowing it was conceived from rape/incest is also traumatic, but the gift of life and an innocent baby is what remains. That in itself is not a crime, not should it be treated like one OR a mole or a cyst worthy of removal.
For a Mother to add to the act of rape, with murder is also
NOT the answer. But nobody but God can possibly judge if somebody in such a difficult position has been desperate enough to go through with it. And we should not judge people who have done this too harshly. Nobody can possibly know what they have endured, unless we have been through that ourselves. But can any of us say we know what it is like to be aborted either?
We should support any abuse surviver but also support the unborn child also. Neither the child, nor the Mother is responsible. Why is the criminal himself not punished as severely? How is it he escapes with his life and may even escape trial, yet the unborn child receives a sentence that even a grown man would recoil from and possibly commit suicide to escape.
Notice how they use words like open-minded for themselves and extreme when discussing us? Which is in line with how they manipulative terms to make them positive for them and negative for us (as mentioned earlier). It's all very much manipulation. Yet they fail to see the extreme nature of murder itself and call us instead "extreme". As in cases of the unborn, they're very selective.
Perhaps the reality of what really goes on is not horrific enough for Linda's taste, as she continues justifying this atrocity for the sake of the rarer and more extreme cases. I cannot really do much more. The only option is perhaps getting hold of more pictures which I will consider doing. But I doubt that will satisfy any pro abortionist whose heart will not be changed and will feel, no matter what, that in some cases it is still ok to kill "it". I do not see how any case justifies the murder of an innocent child. Linda, even the Mother who survives rape/incest has her life, though it maybe shattered. Was she tortured and then torn apart as her baby will be if she chooses to abort it?