God has never brought our "Mother" in heaven here
That was an inference. The text I referenced made that clear.
You must have missed that.
And they are not just flesh and bone....they are immortal.
(John 4:24)
You lump Jesus and God the Father into one being so, of course, so don't believe in this.
Not in the way that you think. It's a little more complicated than that.
But believing what we do about Christ's beginnings does NOT lower Jesus the Christ's role in the least which you are inferring which I know from past posts.
Actually, it does.
The idea of lowering Christ's role in this context is so easily controverted by subjectivity that it's hard to have this discussion.
Nevertheless, I guess we could start by having you ask the question: Are you One with the Father?
But Jesus is literally the "Only Begotten in the flesh and the Son of God." That is all through the Bible. You and others refusal to accept that is simply wrong. It also is right in the New Testament throughout.
I don't refuse to accept this. I only take the concepts in the correct context. This is important.
Christ had many titles: Son of God, Son of Man.
So, does that fact that he is called the Son of Man mean that a man was literally His father?
No.
There is more to this, but I don't think it's necessary to get into it. There is simply too much easy-too-see contradictory and false information behind the LDS church to spend time with conceptional proofs.
The archaeological evidence simply is not there. Did you watch the video?And in the Celestial Kingdom it is not nearly as simple or instant as you make it seem as far as becoming like God. There will be 3 degrees of glory even in the Celestial Kingdom. Not all members will have the privilege of becoming like God and it will not be instantaneous. No one will become perfected in this life and it will take long periods of time in the next to do so. But if we do prove worthy it will be eternal progression and we will have "all that the Father hath" just like the Bible says.
"Be like God..."
Think carefully about that statement and it's origins.
"if we do prove worthy..."
The Bible teaches that worthiness is ONLY achieved through Christ's work on the cross. There is NO other way.
I am not ignorant about what LDS teaches. My studies of mormon doctrine are exactly why I am not a mormon today.
I found internal contradictions, contradictions with the Bible (the part of it that was not "corrected" by Joseph Smith), and a complete lack of archaeological evidence.
Yes, complete.
There is none. It's just not there.
And more disturbing is the fact that their videos that I watched in my own home directly from the mormon church and mormon missionaries clearly misrepresented information to make it look as if there WAS archaeological evidence.
That's called a lie.
I sincerely hope you do take the time to carefully examine the doctrine and lack of evidence supporting the Book of Mormon.
It's very important for you to expose yourself to challenging information and ideas that contradict your own. Don't shield yourself from information just because it's hard to do.
This journey is far too important to neglect.
Finally, is this what you're referring to?
"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."(John 17:21)
Russ, so calling our beliefs bizarre and silly is not disrespectful?
With all due respect, even those in the mormon church that I have discussed these things with admitted to the bizarreness of their beliefs, that is, those who knew about them.
I take back what I said in a compassionate moment. You do deserve 1 star.
It's a sad, sad day in the world when I deserve only 1 star for telling the truth.
Oh well. In an emotional world we do live.
I do have compassion on you, so I compassionately challenge you to ask yourself:
"Do you really want the truth, even if it's hard?"
I'm the only Mormon on here. How can I be a mob? If anyone is guilty of mob mentality it is you and your disciples.
Ouch! Was that really necessary.
Now I also know on what basis you have a problem with the Book of Abraham. THe problem is, Russ, you listened to all these sources instead of listening to the spirit of the Lord with regards to whether or not the church is true. You are still doing it. This information is riddled with lies.
No dear. The information is NOT riddled with lies.
And yes, I do listen to evidence and logic and not my own soul.
I do not judge the validity of a belief by a feeling of a "burning in the bosom." (The Biblical method for evaluation is quite in opposition to this one.)
That is dangerous to do because any spirit could cause you to experience that feeling, and Christ warned that many antichrists are in the world. He taught us how to test the spirits.
Wearing the apron of Lucifer in secret temple ceremonies (that are nearly identical to Scottish Rite Masonry) is sharply contradictory to the Bible: A book that mormon doctrine claims itself to be compatible with.
It is not.
Even so, I'm sorry if you're offended by this information.
I know how hard it is to face a crisis of faith. I was a brand new Christian when I had my encounter with mormons, Jehovah's witnesses, and buddhists.
It was a difficult time because I thought there was a chance that I might have it all wrong, so it caused me to study all the more; A good thing.
I sincerely hope you take the time to review the scope of the disinformation within LDS, particularly as it relates to archeology, because
this is the most easy and blatant to recognize.
