Jeanie: I agree. I've always thought kids need to know the "whys" for morality and this may sound "disobedient" to the Christian population, but I didn't just teach my kids not to just cause its "wrong." There are a lot of good reasons to wait. I've pointed out to them when their friends have messed up and EVERY TIME they had an unhappy consequence. If it does not happen within the proper bounds at least in time it will reap consequences because its natural law even on a social basis. I even watched a film in a psychology class which absolutely amazed me. They did experiments on these little animals (some kind of rodent, I think, but not just mice). The females that were indiscrimate about their partners were not good, nurturing mothers. And the monogomous partners WERE nurturing loving mothers. There was a direct correlation! Even with this latest case on CNN at night with that female lawyer. (The young woman who referred to her own little girl as a snothead and likely killed her. Her daughter was, apparently, getting in the way of her lovelife and that has happened before in the news).

I personally did what came natural to a degree when I came into young woman hood, (basic making out) but got burned in the process. (Raped). I couldn't even talk about it for a couple of decades. Then at 15, pretty much scared of guys, became a Mormon and stuck with the standards. (Before I'd had no guidance that way whatsoever. My dad had died when I was 12 just as I was coming into that phase). Anyway, though, my husband had trust issues with girls cause he was a musician and groupies made themselves readily available which he had no respect for. Funny, but girls think that's how guys want them to be and, I think, even if guys THINK they want girls to be that way, they really don't. Of course I don't think we evolved like you do and that we are much much more than animals. I agree the sex drive is a good, healthy thing and is there to ensure that we reproduce... I've certainly felt that instinct while ovulating... Its there and may seem animal.... But we are here to learn self control and bridle our passions by letting your spirit guide your mind and bodily actions more. When you don't have the guilt associated with the sex its actually pretty great. Of course the old forbidden fruit thing is fun, too, but ultimately that backfires in one way or another and isn't worth it. Its best to begin relationships as friends, too, and build to the physical rather than the other way around other than how its generally done... But when that dies out...or you have sick kids...(or you're sick) or no time....or just don't feel like it, you know your loved one is still going to be yours and not out catting around. In fact, my husband and I are older and we like to have sex once a year whether we feel like it or not just to keep things lively! (J/K : ) (Yes, UT is Utah : )