ACtually Linda, I didn't speak of intolerance. I spoke of the sins Christ pointed out. Of which, I am sure, most (if not all) of us are guilty to differing degrees.

Since there is the need to put Christians constantly in a class of these apparently forceful people who are intolerant and nasty, I wonder if you have seen the way homosexuals have also behaved towards Christians? Televised spitting and attempts at bruality including threating children where Christians were standing up for God's moral code. Wow, what a reaction HOW DARE THEY RIGHT?. It's interesting to me that you guys ignore much of that, but focus hard on trying to misrepresent the opposition, because you don't really like sin being spelt out. You're attempts at demonising Christians or accusing us of imposing our view, whilst you spit out your liberalism is the epitomy of hypocrisy.

I do not hate homosexuals and I am so sick of repeating myself on this. For goodness sake, I know some of them and am friendly with them also. What people do behind closed doors? Very much their business and between them and God. However, when it comes to a vote? Christians also have a right to vote and if they do not wish to vote FOR gay marriages, then they have the choice to vote against them.

There is very little Christian influence around to every make anybody feel imposed upon. It's quite the opposite in fact and people most definitely have freedom to do as they wish. We see this daily, on TV, in reality, movies/magazines, the lot. Nobody is forcing anybody, so let's drop the Christian axe grinding for awhile eh?

It's amazing that people bring up Christianity and you have referred to Linear as Christian, yet somehow you expect what? That we behave like luke warm, watered down quiet Christians and simply shut up or tell you what you want to hear, whilst we put up with the liberal immoral push in society that we' get daily? You gotta be kidding!

Nobody is forcing anybody to stop doing anything, unless they are committing an act against a child, or murder, rape, etc. Sexual immorality between adults, is not a crime in our world because it's consent between adults. But it is certainly an offense to God, but that doesn't stop people from doing their thing anytime they wish. However, in the end, only He can judge them. To warn a person, is not forcing something on them. They can ignore that and continue. To share the gospel and to share what sins offend God with a person, is right for any Christian to do, or they are failing poorly. It gives those people the chance to hear and if possible repent. It gives them the chance to also turn away and continue on.

Are you also aware that we might feel the imposing of secularism? I have had people sometimes scoff or sympathise with me, because I'm not being loose in morals! Somehow that's ok for them to probe and push? yet I'm not allowed to express any form of Christian belief or morality to anybody, or I'm being judgemental, prudish, etc etc. Yet the loose of morals can do and speak as they wish. It seems the in thing! Perhaps I'm just not buying into it and that means Im imposing my view because I just might stand up for my faith too sometimes. Wow!

Sorry guys, but your attempts at blacking the name of Christianity simply fall flat. It's a nice try I guess, but it's not an honest portrayal at all. Nowhere have I pushed my own religion onto anybody, but there is no way I'm going to shut my mouth and never stand up for Christ or my faith, simply because you or anybody have decided it's the secular way or NO WAY. Forget it. You have your way mostly in society anyway.

You can of course pick out the worst of Christians and then portray the rest of us this way, I can't stop you doing that, whilst you ignore the vast Christian organisations helping humanity across the glove. Gotta love the ommissions of that one eh? .

I guess by doing this, it helps make homosexuals look like the poor victims and the Christians look like the bad guys welding and brandishing bibles with violence and perhaps a sack of stones to stone them to death? Or drag them off to jail, chained hand and foot because of what they do behind closed doors? Actually, try looking up the persecution of Christians in certain countries today for a change. I wonder if you're ever bothered by that as much as you are by a homosexual getting into a tizzy because he's demanding marriage rights. I can't stand persecution of anybody, homosexual and otherwise and violence against people because of their lifestyle/belief is abhorrent to me. But please do not expect a genuine Christian to keep their mouths closed when the question of such sins come up in conversation.

Even Jesus saved an adulterous woman from being stoned to death by forcing those about to do so, to examine their OWN consciences. Since he is fully aware of how many of us are sinful ourselves. Homosexuality was not actually started by me on this forum Pwcca, I simply responded. I dont' focus on homosexuality, because there are many sexual sins that people commit daily that offend God and I have mentioned those also. I respond because I refuse to sit back, shut up and okay it. It's NOT okay with God. Hey, if you don't believe in the Christian God? that's your decision and your acceptance of homosexuality shouldn't be surprising but your ideas of us imposing our view, could then equally be turned around. Either way, God is offended by it, therefore I too feel obligated to stand up if I am asked my opinion, OR somebody proclaims it as being "oK' or why should Christians oppose it. We oppose it because God Himself has opposed it.

I've seen people try and catch us out on here when we slip up as Christians with our faults and often certain biblical quotes will be brought up to perhaps shame us? Which is fine, who doesn't need that? But, how is it, that on the next hand, one goes from trying to catch us in the act of not being very Christian, but then we get criticised when we stand strong on the teachings and sin? Linda, I have seen you and the others say "oh how Christian of you" sarcastically when someone has been harsh with you. Yet, then you do the opposite when we ARE being Christian by standing up for sin.

Interesting.